From pa.cnp at verizon.net Tue Apr 1 09:40:56 2008 From: pa.cnp at verizon.net (pacnp) Date: Tue Apr 1 08:44:56 2008 Subject: [Pacnp_member] Job Opportunity - Hatboro and Harrisburg Message-ID: <011901c893fe$0344b5b0$0301a8c0@Margie> nurse practitioner We are currently seeking a part-time (20-24 hours per week) Nurse Practitioner to complete our facilities in Hatboro, Pa and Harrisburg, Pa. Valid License required, Drug and alcohol experience preferred. Please send your resume for Hatboro, PA to: DISCOVERRY HOUSE, 329 West County Line Road, Hatboro, PA 19040, Fax: 215-675-9139, Email: Aandre@discoveryhouse.com - For the Harrisburg, Pa position to: DISCOVERY HOUSE, 99 South Cameron Street, Harrisburg, PA 17101, Fax: 717-233-5334 or Email: Blechleitner@discoveryhouse.com -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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Be sure to click on the drop down menu for About CACC and ABCC and look at the members!! http://www.abcc.dnpcert.org/pressrelease.shtml I have also added an article that was in the wall street journal http://online.wsj.com/article/SB120710036831882059.html.html Lori Martin-Plank, CRNP Secy, PCNP --------------------------------- You rock. That's why Blockbuster's offering you one month of Blockbuster Total Access, No Cost. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://www.legalisi.com/pipermail/pacnp_member/attachments/20080403/96e527a9/attachment.html From ALJJP at aol.com Thu Apr 3 22:40:44 2008 From: ALJJP at aol.com (ALJJP@aol.com) Date: Thu Apr 3 22:44:24 2008 Subject: [Pacnp_member] Interesting info Message-ID: Our national NAPNAP president sent a reply to the Wall Street Journal, obviously disagreeing with much that was in the article... Note that those requesting we take this "exam" are mostly non-nurses.... This will certainly open lots of dialogue on the DNP and NP once again!!! ANN L. PRON PA Del Val chapter NAPNAP In a message dated 4/3/2008 9:42:57 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time, lorimpcrnp@yahoo.com writes: Listserv colleagues--here is our future! Be sure to click on the drop down menu for About CACC and ABCC and look at the members!! _http://www.abcc.dnpcert.org/pressrelease.shtml_ (http://www.abcc.dnpcert.org/pressrelease.shtml) I have also added an article that was in the wall street journal _http://online.wsj.com/article/SB120710036831882059.html.html_ (http://online.wsj.com/article/SB120710036831882059.html.html) Lori Martin-Plank, CRNP Secy, PCNP ____________________________________ You rock. That's why Blockbuster's offering you _one month of Blockbuster Total Access_ (http://us.rd.yahoo.com/evt=47523/*http://tc.deals.yahoo.com/tc/blockbuster/text5.com) , No Cost. _______________________________________________ Pacnp_member mailing list Pacnp_member@pacnp.org http://www.pacnp.org/mailman/listinfo/pacnp_member **************Planning your summer road trip? Check out AOL Travel Guides. (http://travel.aol.com/travel-guide/united-states?ncid=aoltrv00030000000016) -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://www.legalisi.com/pipermail/pacnp_member/attachments/20080403/46474aea/attachment.html From lorimpcrnp at yahoo.com Thu Apr 3 23:29:53 2008 From: lorimpcrnp at yahoo.com (Lori Plank) Date: Thu Apr 3 23:33:25 2008 Subject: [Pacnp_member] Interesting info In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <779464.54070.qm@web63407.mail.re1.yahoo.com> Ann--look again at the members of the CACC/ABCC group--our esteemed nursing education leaders/colleagues. http://www.abcc.dnpcert.org/board.shtml Lori ALJJP@aol.com wrote: Our national NAPNAP president sent a reply to the Wall Street Journal, obviously disagreeing with much that was in the article... Note that those requesting we take this "exam" are mostly non-nurses.... This will certainly open lots of dialogue on the DNP and NP once again!!! ANN L. PRON PA Del Val chapter NAPNAP In a message dated 4/3/2008 9:42:57 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time, lorimpcrnp@yahoo.com writes: Listserv colleagues--here is our future! Be sure to click on the drop down menu for About CACC and ABCC and look at the members!! http://www.abcc.dnpcert.org/pressrelease.shtml I have also added an article that was in the wall street journal http://online.wsj.com/article/SB120710036831882059.html.html Lori Martin-Plank, CRNP Secy, PCNP --------------------------------- You rock. That's why Blockbuster's offering you one month of Blockbuster Total Access, No Cost. _______________________________________________ Pacnp_member mailing list Pacnp_member@pacnp.org http://www.pacnp.org/mailman/listinfo/pacnp_member --------------------------------- Planning your summer road trip? Check out AOL Travel Guides. --------------------------------- You rock. That's why Blockbuster's offering you one month of Blockbuster Total Access, No Cost. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://www.legalisi.com/pipermail/pacnp_member/attachments/20080403/66fddb6a/attachment-0001.html From lorimpcrnp at yahoo.com Thu Apr 3 23:36:36 2008 From: lorimpcrnp at yahoo.com (Lori Plank) Date: Thu Apr 3 23:40:08 2008 Subject: [Pacnp_member] Interesting info In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <475499.84954.qm@web63405.mail.re1.yahoo.com> Hi, Amy--Please observe our listserv advertising policy and post jobs only through our administrative assistant. thank you. Lori Martin-Plank, CRNP Secy, PCNP The Pennsylvania Coalition of Nurse Practitioners accepts paid advertising for NP positions on our website and listserve. To post a position, send an email to NPads@pacnp.org with your ad in "print ready" format. You may send it within the email or as an attached Word document. Ads will be posted on the website for 60 days and sent to the PCNP members via the email listserv when payment is received. The cost for an ad is $159 for 60 days (includes $9 sales tax). Visa and MasterCard accepted.Please call 717-766-4458 with your credit card information. "McKeever,Amy" wrote: Hi All, I am attaching a PDF file for our advertisement at Drexel for career opportunities if anyone is interested. They do not require a doctoral degree upon entry, but will support you nicely if you would like to pursue one. Amy Amy E. McKeever, MSN, CRNP Assistant Clinical Professor Drexel University College of Nursing and Health Professions 245 N. 15th Street Mail Stop 501 Philadelphia, PA 19102 Office- 215-762-1009 Fax 215-762-1259 Email-aem42@drexel.edu "May you always be blessed with walls for the wind, a roof for the rain, a warm cup of tea by the fire, laughter to cheer you, those you love near you, and all that your heart might desire." NOTICE: This e-mail may contain information that is confidential, protected, or privileged. If you are not the intended recipient, please delete both the message and any attachments and notify us immediately. --------------------------------- From: pacnp_member-bounces@pacnp.org on behalf of Lori Plank Sent: Thu 4/3/2008 9:42 PM To: member listserv Subject: [Pacnp_member] Interesting info Listserv colleagues--here is our future! Be sure to click on the drop down menu for About CACC and ABCC and look at the members!! http://www.abcc.dnpcert.org/pressrelease.shtml I have also added an article that was in the wall street journal http://online.wsj.com/article/SB120710036831882059.html.html Lori Martin-Plank, CRNP Secy, PCNP --------------------------------- You rock. That's why Blockbuster's offering you one month of Blockbuster Total Access, No Cost. --------------------------------- You rock. That's why Blockbuster's offering you one month of Blockbuster Total Access, No Cost. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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The CRNP extends and expands the role of the physicians, enhances continuity of quality patient care and amplifies communication among all professional care givers, the patient and his/her family members. Requirements: * A minimum of two years nursing experience with medical or surgical, telemetry, or critical care inpatients is preferred. * One year of CRNP experience, one year of Prescriptive Privileges experience is preferred. * CRNP PA license. * BLS & ACLS certification. We offer competitive salaries and a comprehensive list of benefits. Please email resumes to Connie Samulewicz at samulewiczc@mlhs.org Phone 610-229-4269 or fax to 610-229-4172 EOE -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://www.legalisi.com/pipermail/pacnp_member/attachments/20080404/e8b9922d/attachment.html From fkinsell at gettysburg.edu Fri Apr 4 15:33:00 2008 From: fkinsell at gettysburg.edu (Frederick Kinsella) Date: Fri Apr 4 15:36:36 2008 Subject: [Pacnp_member] Interesting info In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <5635983A9E7FED429A1CD5864680542D09274C17@exchadm.ms.gettysburg.edu> I wonder if the academicians who list DNP currently and especially those on this board, will need to "be tested" before being allowed to teach in DNP programs. It's late Friday but it just seems like nursing is sometimes its own worst enemy.. I know many may disagree but it is just my opinion. Frederick Kinsella MSN CRNP Family Nurse Practitioner Director Health Services Associate Director Health & Counseling Center Gettysburg College 300 North Washington St Gettysburg, PA 17325 717 337-6970 717 337-6978 Fax ________________________________ From: pacnp_member-bounces@pacnp.org [mailto:pacnp_member-bounces@pacnp.org] On Behalf Of ALJJP@aol.com Sent: Thursday, April 03, 2008 10:41 PM To: lorimpcrnp@yahoo.com; pacnp_member@pacnp.org Subject: Re: [Pacnp_member] Interesting info Our national NAPNAP president sent a reply to the Wall Street Journal, obviously disagreeing with much that was in the article... Note that those requesting we take this "exam" are mostly non-nurses.... This will certainly open lots of dialogue on the DNP and NP once again!!! ANN L. PRON PA Del Val chapter NAPNAP In a message dated 4/3/2008 9:42:57 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time, lorimpcrnp@yahoo.com writes: Listserv colleagues--here is our future! Be sure to click on the drop down menu for About CACC and ABCC and look at the members!! http://www.abcc.dnpcert.org/pressrelease.shtml I have also added an article that was in the wall street journal http://online.wsj.com/article/SB120710036831882059.html.html Lori Martin-Plank, CRNP Secy, PCNP ________________________________ You rock. That's why Blockbuster's offering you one month of Blockbuster Total Access , No Cost. _______________________________________________ Pacnp_member mailing list Pacnp_member@pacnp.org http://www.pacnp.org/mailman/listinfo/pacnp_member ________________________________ Planning your summer road trip? Check out AOL Travel Guides . -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://www.legalisi.com/pipermail/pacnp_member/attachments/20080404/1cfd53a1/attachment-0001.html From elayned at gmail.com Fri Apr 4 16:40:13 2008 From: elayned at gmail.com (Elayne DeSimone) Date: Fri Apr 4 16:44:02 2008 Subject: [Pacnp_member] Interesting info In-Reply-To: <5635983A9E7FED429A1CD5864680542D09274C17@exchadm.ms.gettysburg.edu> References: <5635983A9E7FED429A1CD5864680542D09274C17@exchadm.ms.gettysburg.edu> Message-ID: <32754a7f0804041340m373368dbx4f1f7f5d4a009987@mail.gmail.com> Oh I so agree with you Frederick. Despite all the assurances to the contrary, I wonder if all my years of experience as a master's prepared ANP and my PhD, will count in either the clinical arena or in academia, if this new certification becomes a reality. Elayne DeSimone, PhD, CRNP Clinical Associate Professor, Stony Brook University ANP - CVIM On Fri, Apr 4, 2008 at 3:33 PM, Frederick Kinsella wrote: > I wonder if the academicians who list DNP currently and especially those > on this board, will need to "be tested" before being allowed to teach in DNP > programs. > > > > It's late Friday but it just seems like nursing is sometimes its own worst > enemy.. I know many may disagree but it is just my opinion. > > > > Frederick Kinsella MSN CRNP > > Family Nurse Practitioner > > Director Health Services > > Associate Director Health & Counseling Center > > > > Gettysburg College > > 300 North Washington St > > Gettysburg, PA 17325 > > > > 717 337-6970 > > 717 337-6978 Fax > ------------------------------ > > *From:* pacnp_member-bounces@pacnp.org [mailto: > pacnp_member-bounces@pacnp.org] *On Behalf Of *ALJJP@aol.com > *Sent:* Thursday, April 03, 2008 10:41 PM > *To:* lorimpcrnp@yahoo.com; pacnp_member@pacnp.org > *Subject:* Re: [Pacnp_member] Interesting info > > > > Our national NAPNAP president sent a reply to the Wall Street Journal, > obviously disagreeing with much that was in the article... Note that those > requesting we take this "exam" are mostly non-nurses.... > > > > This will certainly open lots of dialogue on the DNP and NP once again!!! > > > > ANN L. PRON > > PA Del Val chapter NAPNAP > > > > In a message dated 4/3/2008 9:42:57 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time, > lorimpcrnp@yahoo.com writes: > > Listserv colleagues--here is our future! Be sure to click on the drop > down menu for About CACC and ABCC and look at the members!! > > > > > > http://www.abcc.dnpcert.org/pressrelease.shtml > > > > > > I have also added an article that was in the wall street journal > http://online.wsj.com/article/SB120710036831882059.html.html > > > > Lori Martin-Plank, CRNP > > Secy, PCNP > ------------------------------ > > You rock. That's why Blockbuster's offering you one month of Blockbuster > Total Access, > No Cost. > > _______________________________________________ > Pacnp_member mailing list > Pacnp_member@pacnp.org > http://www.pacnp.org/mailman/listinfo/pacnp_member > > > > ------------------------------ > > Planning your summer road trip? Check out AOL Travel Guides > . > > _______________________________________________ > Pacnp_member mailing list > Pacnp_member@pacnp.org > http://www.pacnp.org/mailman/listinfo/pacnp_member > > -- -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://www.legalisi.com/pipermail/pacnp_member/attachments/20080404/6265b2b0/attachment.html From joyce.penrose at sru.edu Sun Apr 6 09:04:51 2008 From: joyce.penrose at sru.edu (Penrose, Joyce.) Date: Sun Apr 6 19:13:12 2008 Subject: [Pacnp_member] Interesting info References: <5635983A9E7FED429A1CD5864680542D09274C17@exchadm.ms.gettysburg.edu> <32754a7f0804041340m373368dbx4f1f7f5d4a009987@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: I've been a nurse practitioner since 1973 and at first I was really opposed to the DNP concept - yet another manifestation of nursing's inability to decide on the preparation of nurses and stick to it, I thought . And we already had the DNS which, as I remember it, was to be a practice-based alternative to the PhD. Also, we developed the ND which, as far as I can tell, never really caught on. So why did we need a DNP? Yet another example of the highly educated among our ranks disenfranchising the rest of us who are working in the proverbial "trenches" just trying to provide the best patient care we can? As time as passed, however, I have started seeing things differently, especially from my position as educator of future nurse practitioners. When our specialty developed we emphasized primary care of children with a focus on health promotion and early detection of conditions such as amblyopia which at that time were often diagnosed only on entry to first grade, too late for any effective corrective action to be taken. I don't think that the NP role as it is now conceptualized - with its emphasis on health promotion, disease detection, diagnosing and managing acute conditions and helping patients manage chronic disease and consequences of aging - was ever anticipated by those early educators and NPs, themselves. And the amount of time and number of credits in master's programs are, I fear, insufficient to the task of preparing clinicians to meet today's expectations. So I've come to think that the DNP could be a solution to providing the education that NPs need now and in the future. Joyce E. Penrose, DrPH, CRNP, FNP-BC Clarion, Edinboro and Slippery Rock Universities Master of Science in Nursing Program 115A Strain Building Slippery Rock University Slippery Rock, PA 16057 Phone: 724 738 2323 Fax: 724 738 2509 Email: joyce.penrose@sru.edu ________________________________ From: pacnp_member-bounces@pacnp.org on behalf of Elayne DeSimone Sent: Fri 4/4/2008 4:40 PM To: Frederick Kinsella Cc: ALJJP@aol.com; pacnp_member@pacnp.org Subject: Re: [Pacnp_member] Interesting info Oh I so agree with you Frederick. Despite all the assurances to the contrary, I wonder if all my years of experience as a master's prepared ANP and my PhD, will count in either the clinical arena or in academia, if this new certification becomes a reality. Elayne DeSimone, PhD, CRNP Clinical Associate Professor, Stony Brook University ANP - CVIM On Fri, Apr 4, 2008 at 3:33 PM, Frederick Kinsella wrote: I wonder if the academicians who list DNP currently and especially those on this board, will need to "be tested" before being allowed to teach in DNP programs. It's late Friday but it just seems like nursing is sometimes its own worst enemy.. I know many may disagree but it is just my opinion. Frederick Kinsella MSN CRNP Family Nurse Practitioner Director Health Services Associate Director Health & Counseling Center Gettysburg College 300 North Washington St Gettysburg, PA 17325 717 337-6970 717 337-6978 Fax ________________________________ From: pacnp_member-bounces@pacnp.org [mailto:pacnp_member-bounces@pacnp.org] On Behalf Of ALJJP@aol.com Sent: Thursday, April 03, 2008 10:41 PM To: lorimpcrnp@yahoo.com; pacnp_member@pacnp.org Subject: Re: [Pacnp_member] Interesting info Our national NAPNAP president sent a reply to the Wall Street Journal, obviously disagreeing with much that was in the article... Note that those requesting we take this "exam" are mostly non-nurses.... This will certainly open lots of dialogue on the DNP and NP once again!!! ANN L. PRON PA Del Val chapter NAPNAP In a message dated 4/3/2008 9:42:57 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time, lorimpcrnp@yahoo.com writes: Listserv colleagues--here is our future! Be sure to click on the drop down menu for About CACC and ABCC and look at the members!! http://www.abcc.dnpcert.org/pressrelease.shtml I have also added an article that was in the wall street journal http://online.wsj.com/article/SB120710036831882059.html.html Lori Martin-Plank, CRNP Secy, PCNP ________________________________ You rock. That's why Blockbuster's offering you one month of Blockbuster Total Access , No Cost. _______________________________________________ Pacnp_member mailing list Pacnp_member@pacnp.org http://www.pacnp.org/mailman/listinfo/pacnp_member ________________________________ Planning your summer road trip? Check out AOL Travel Guides . _______________________________________________ Pacnp_member mailing list Pacnp_member@pacnp.org http://www.pacnp.org/mailman/listinfo/pacnp_member -- From wlbrian at comcast.net Sun Apr 6 21:10:48 2008 From: wlbrian at comcast.net (wlbrian@comcast.net) Date: Sun Apr 6 21:11:31 2008 Subject: [Pacnp_member] Interesting info Message-ID: <040720080110.21349.47F97498000055B8000053652200762194020E079D0D0499@comcast.net> Your concept may be worth considering except most of the programs that I have considered don't necessarily focus on making me a better clinician, but are more geared towards health policy and admistrative roles. If I felt that getting a DNP would make me a better NP after 13 years in practice I would be the first in line but as I have reviewed the curriculum at the Universities in my communiting area I do not think they offer things that will offer knowledge base just political base. Wendy Brian Adult and Women Health Nurse Practitioner -------------- Original message -------------- From: "Penrose, Joyce." > I've been a nurse practitioner since 1973 and at first I was really opposed to > the DNP concept - yet another manifestation of nursing's inability to decide on > the preparation of nurses and stick to it, I thought . And we already had the > DNS which, as I remember it, was to be a practice-based alternative to the PhD. > Also, we developed the ND which, as far as I can tell, never really caught on. > So why did we need a DNP? Yet another example of the highly educated among our > ranks disenfranchising the rest of us who are working in the proverbial > "trenches" just trying to provide the best patient care we can? > > As time as passed, however, I have started seeing things differently, especially > from my position as educator of future nurse practitioners. When our specialty > developed we emphasized primary care of children with a focus on health > promotion and early detection of conditions such as amblyopia which at that time > were often diagnosed only on entry to first grade, too late for any effective > corrective action to be taken. I don't think that the NP role as it is now > conceptualized - with its emphasis on health promotion, disease detection, > diagnosing and managing acute conditions and helping patients manage chronic > disease and consequences of aging - was ever anticipated by those early > educators and NPs, themselves. And the amount of time and number of credits in > master's programs are, I fear, insufficient to the task of preparing clinicians > to meet today's expectations. So I've come to think that the DNP could be a > solution to providing the education that NPs need now and in the future. > > > Joyce E. Penrose, DrPH, CRNP, FNP-BC > > Clarion, Edinboro and Slippery Rock Universities > > Master of Science in Nursing Program > > 115A Strain Building > > Slippery Rock University > > Slippery Rock, PA 16057 > > Phone: 724 738 2323 > > Fax: 724 738 2509 > > Email: joyce.penrose@sru.edu > > ________________________________ > > From: pacnp_member-bounces@pacnp.org on behalf of Elayne DeSimone > Sent: Fri 4/4/2008 4:40 PM > To: Frederick Kinsella > Cc: ALJJP@aol.com; pacnp_member@pacnp.org > Subject: Re: [Pacnp_member] Interesting info > > > Oh I so agree with you Frederick. Despite all the assurances to the contrary, I > wonder if all my years of experience as a master's prepared ANP and my PhD, will > count in either the clinical arena or in academia, if this new certification > becomes a reality. > > Elayne DeSimone, PhD, CRNP > Clinical Associate Professor, Stony Brook University > ANP - CVIM > > > On Fri, Apr 4, 2008 at 3:33 PM, Frederick Kinsella > wrote: > > > I wonder if the academicians who list DNP currently and especially those > on this board, will need to "be tested" before being allowed to teach in DNP > programs. > > > > It's late Friday but it just seems like nursing is sometimes its own > worst enemy.. I know many may disagree but it is just my opinion. > > > > Frederick Kinsella MSN CRNP > > Family Nurse Practitioner > > Director Health Services > > Associate Director Health & Counseling Center > > > > Gettysburg College > > 300 North Washington St > > Gettysburg, PA 17325 > > > > 717 337-6970 > > 717 337-6978 Fax > > > ________________________________ > > > From: pacnp_member-bounces@pacnp.org > [mailto:pacnp_member-bounces@pacnp.org] On Behalf Of ALJJP@aol.com > Sent: Thursday, April 03, 2008 10:41 PM > To: lorimpcrnp@yahoo.com; pacnp_member@pacnp.org > Subject: Re: [Pacnp_member] Interesting info > > > > Our national NAPNAP president sent a reply to the Wall Street Journal, > obviously disagreeing with much that was in the article... Note that those > requesting we take this "exam" are mostly non-nurses.... > > > > This will certainly open lots of dialogue on the DNP and NP once > again!!! > > > > ANN L. PRON > > PA Del Val chapter NAPNAP > > > > In a message dated 4/3/2008 9:42:57 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time, > lorimpcrnp@yahoo.com writes: > > Listserv colleagues--here is our future! Be sure to click on > the drop down menu for About CACC and ABCC and look at the members!! > > > > > > http://www.abcc.dnpcert.org/pressrelease.shtml > > > > > > I have also added an article that was in the wall street journal > http://online.wsj.com/article/SB120710036831882059.html.html > > > > Lori Martin-Plank, CRNP > > Secy, PCNP > > > ________________________________ > > > You rock. That's why Blockbuster's offering you one month of > Blockbuster Total Access > > .com> , No Cost. > > _______________________________________________ > Pacnp_member mailing list > Pacnp_member@pacnp.org > http://www.pacnp.org/mailman/listinfo/pacnp_member > > > > > > > ________________________________ > > > Planning your summer road trip? Check out AOL Travel Guides > . > > > _______________________________________________ > Pacnp_member mailing list > Pacnp_member@pacnp.org > http://www.pacnp.org/mailman/listinfo/pacnp_member > > > > > > > -- > > > _______________________________________________ > Pacnp_member mailing list > Pacnp_member@pacnp.org > http://www.pacnp.org/mailman/listinfo/pacnp_member -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://www.legalisi.com/pipermail/pacnp_member/attachments/20080407/ce9c69b7/attachment-0001.html From bslev at comcast.net Mon Apr 7 05:40:04 2008 From: bslev at comcast.net (Barbara Levine) Date: Mon Apr 7 05:40:50 2008 Subject: [Pacnp_member] Interesting info In-Reply-To: References: <5635983A9E7FED429A1CD5864680542D09274C17@exchadm.ms.gettysburg.edu> <32754a7f0804041340m373368dbx4f1f7f5d4a009987@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <589fca62f4308cc300d60a1b0aaf0b66@comcast.net> Joyce, Your experiences and thoughts pretty well reflect my own. In some educational programs, the credits (both classroom and clinical) required for the MSN have expanded as the NP role has expanded. Some MSN programs already carry requirements comparable to a clinical doctorate in other fields. I now think that the DNP may be a way of recognizing the value of the NP education ... more than a master's degree. Now my concern about it is ... does it generate more confusion for the public and our patients (clients)? I earned a PhD 16 years ago. I am engaged in full-time clinical practice. I do not use the "doctor" title as I want patients to know that I am first and foremost a NURSE practitioner ... not the same situation as if it were the "entry" to NP practice. Thanks for your thoughts. Barb On Apr 6, 2008, at 9:04 AM, Penrose, Joyce. wrote: > I've been a nurse practitioner since 1973 and at first I was really > opposed to the DNP concept - yet another manifestation of nursing's > inability to decide on the preparation of nurses and stick to it, I > thought . And we already had the DNS which, as I remember it, was to > be a practice-based alternative to the PhD. Also, we developed the ND > which, as far as I can tell, never really caught on. So why did we > need a DNP? Yet another example of the highly educated among our ranks > disenfranchising the rest of us who are working in the proverbial > "trenches" just trying to provide the best patient care we can? > > As time as passed, however, I have started seeing things differently, > especially from my position as educator of future nurse practitioners. > When our specialty developed we emphasized primary care of children > with a focus on health promotion and early detection of conditions > such as amblyopia which at that time were often diagnosed only on > entry to first grade, too late for any effective corrective action to > be taken. I don't think that the NP role as it is now conceptualized - > with its emphasis on health promotion, disease detection, diagnosing > and managing acute conditions and helping patients manage chronic > disease and consequences of aging - was ever anticipated by those > early educators and NPs, themselves. And the amount of time and > number of credits in master's programs are, I fear, insufficient to > the task of preparing clinicians to meet today's expectations. So I've > come to think that the DNP could be a solution to providing the > education that NPs need now and in the future. > > > Joyce E. Penrose, DrPH, CRNP, FNP-BC > > Clarion, Edinboro and Slippery Rock Universities > > Master of Science in Nursing Program > > 115A Strain Building > > Slippery Rock University > > Slippery Rock, PA 16057 > > Phone: 724 738 2323 > > Fax: 724 738 2509 > > Email: joyce.penrose@sru.edu > > ________________________________ > > From: pacnp_member-bounces@pacnp.org on behalf of Elayne DeSimone > Sent: Fri 4/4/2008 4:40 PM > To: Frederick Kinsella > Cc: ALJJP@aol.com; pacnp_member@pacnp.org > Subject: Re: [Pacnp_member] Interesting info > > > Oh I so agree with you Frederick. Despite all the assurances to the > contrary, I wonder if all my years of experience as a master's > prepared ANP and my PhD, will count in either the clinical arena or in > academia, if this new certification becomes a reality. > > Elayne DeSimone, PhD, CRNP > Clinical Associate Professor, Stony Brook University > ANP - CVIM > > > On Fri, Apr 4, 2008 at 3:33 PM, Frederick Kinsella > wrote: > > > I wonder if the academicians who list DNP currently and especially > those on this board, will need to "be tested" before being allowed to > teach in DNP programs. > > > > It's late Friday but it just seems like nursing is sometimes its own > worst enemy.. I know many may disagree but it is just my opinion. > > > > Frederick Kinsella MSN CRNP > > Family Nurse Practitioner > > Director Health Services > > Associate Director Health & Counseling Center > > > > Gettysburg College > > 300 North Washington St > > Gettysburg, PA 17325 > > > > 717 337-6970 > > 717 337-6978 Fax > > > ________________________________ > > > From: pacnp_member-bounces@pacnp.org > [mailto:pacnp_member-bounces@pacnp.org] On Behalf Of ALJJP@aol.com > Sent: Thursday, April 03, 2008 10:41 PM > To: lorimpcrnp@yahoo.com; pacnp_member@pacnp.org > Subject: Re: [Pacnp_member] Interesting info > > > > Our national NAPNAP president sent a reply to the Wall Street > Journal, obviously disagreeing with much that was in the article... > Note that those requesting we take this "exam" are mostly > non-nurses.... > > > > This will certainly open lots of dialogue on the DNP and NP once > again!!! > > > > ANN L. PRON > > PA Del Val chapter NAPNAP > > > > In a message dated 4/3/2008 9:42:57 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time, > lorimpcrnp@yahoo.com writes: > > Listserv colleagues--here is our future! Be sure to click on the > drop down menu for About CACC and ABCC and look at the members!! > > > > > > http://www.abcc.dnpcert.org/pressrelease.shtml > > > > > > I have also added an article that was in the wall street journal > http://online.wsj.com/article/SB120710036831882059.html.html > > > > Lori Martin-Plank, CRNP > > Secy, PCNP > > > ________________________________ > > > You rock. That's why Blockbuster's offering you one month of > Blockbuster Total Access > blockbuster/text5.com> , No Cost. > > _______________________________________________ > Pacnp_member mailing list > Pacnp_member@pacnp.org > http://www.pacnp.org/mailman/listinfo/pacnp_member > > > > > > > ________________________________ > > > Planning your summer road trip? Check out AOL Travel Guides > ncid=aoltrv00030000000016> . > > > _______________________________________________ > Pacnp_member mailing list > Pacnp_member@pacnp.org > http://www.pacnp.org/mailman/listinfo/pacnp_member > > > > > > > -- > > > _______________________________________________ > Pacnp_member mailing list > Pacnp_member@pacnp.org > http://www.pacnp.org/mailman/listinfo/pacnp_member > From Rose.Alvin at chp.edu Mon Apr 7 16:13:48 2008 From: Rose.Alvin at chp.edu (Alvin, Rose M) Date: Mon Apr 7 16:15:19 2008 Subject: [Pacnp_member] Interesting info References: <5635983A9E7FED429A1CD5864680542D09274C17@exchadm.ms.gettysburg.edu><32754a7f0804041340m373368dbx4f1f7f5d4a009987@mail.gmail.com> <589fca62f4308cc300d60a1b0aaf0b66@comcast.net> Message-ID: As usual our complications are well-intended but can take a generation of NP's &/or RNC's to actualize. I believe we fail to understand the constraint of trade issues and that we will not be able to market the "doctor nurse" concept to the general public. In underserved areas (the original intent in the early '70's), the NP was believed to be a colleague with medicine who would service rural and "inner city" neighborhoods. When I finished my master's in 1973-74, it was thought that ambulatory area care and nurse run clinics would be seen as favorable developments not competitive models. I, personally, think that the M-Care (liability insurance) rates are income producing for government and that continuing ed/certification issues are noble but missing the mark re: where the pressure to be "physician-like" is coming. ________________________________ From: pacnp_member-bounces@pacnp.org on behalf of Barbara Levine Sent: Mon 4/7/2008 5:40 AM To: Penrose, Joyce. Cc: Elayne DeSimone; pacnp_member@pacnp.org; ALJJP@aol.com Subject: Re: [Pacnp_member] Interesting info Joyce, Your experiences and thoughts pretty well reflect my own. In some educational programs, the credits (both classroom and clinical) required for the MSN have expanded as the NP role has expanded. Some MSN programs already carry requirements comparable to a clinical doctorate in other fields. I now think that the DNP may be a way of recognizing the value of the NP education ... more than a master's degree. Now my concern about it is ... does it generate more confusion for the public and our patients (clients)? I earned a PhD 16 years ago. I am engaged in full-time clinical practice. I do not use the "doctor" title as I want patients to know that I am first and foremost a NURSE practitioner ... not the same situation as if it were the "entry" to NP practice. Thanks for your thoughts. Barb On Apr 6, 2008, at 9:04 AM, Penrose, Joyce. wrote: > I've been a nurse practitioner since 1973 and at first I was really > opposed to the DNP concept - yet another manifestation of nursing's > inability to decide on the preparation of nurses and stick to it, I > thought . And we already had the DNS which, as I remember it, was to > be a practice-based alternative to the PhD. Also, we developed the ND > which, as far as I can tell, never really caught on. So why did we > need a DNP? Yet another example of the highly educated among our ranks > disenfranchising the rest of us who are working in the proverbial > "trenches" just trying to provide the best patient care we can? > > As time as passed, however, I have started seeing things differently, > especially from my position as educator of future nurse practitioners. > When our specialty developed we emphasized primary care of children > with a focus on health promotion and early detection of conditions > such as amblyopia which at that time were often diagnosed only on > entry to first grade, too late for any effective corrective action to > be taken. I don't think that the NP role as it is now conceptualized - > with its emphasis on health promotion, disease detection, diagnosing > and managing acute conditions and helping patients manage chronic > disease and consequences of aging - was ever anticipated by those > early educators and NPs, themselves. And the amount of time and > number of credits in master's programs are, I fear, insufficient to > the task of preparing clinicians to meet today's expectations. So I've > come to think that the DNP could be a solution to providing the > education that NPs need now and in the future. > > > Joyce E. Penrose, DrPH, CRNP, FNP-BC > > Clarion, Edinboro and Slippery Rock Universities > > Master of Science in Nursing Program > > 115A Strain Building > > Slippery Rock University > > Slippery Rock, PA 16057 > > Phone: 724 738 2323 > > Fax: 724 738 2509 > > Email: joyce.penrose@sru.edu > > ________________________________ > > From: pacnp_member-bounces@pacnp.org on behalf of Elayne DeSimone > Sent: Fri 4/4/2008 4:40 PM > To: Frederick Kinsella > Cc: ALJJP@aol.com; pacnp_member@pacnp.org > Subject: Re: [Pacnp_member] Interesting info > > > Oh I so agree with you Frederick. Despite all the assurances to the > contrary, I wonder if all my years of experience as a master's > prepared ANP and my PhD, will count in either the clinical arena or in > academia, if this new certification becomes a reality. > > Elayne DeSimone, PhD, CRNP > Clinical Associate Professor, Stony Brook University > ANP - CVIM > > > On Fri, Apr 4, 2008 at 3:33 PM, Frederick Kinsella > wrote: > > > I wonder if the academicians who list DNP currently and especially > those on this board, will need to "be tested" before being allowed to > teach in DNP programs. > > > > It's late Friday but it just seems like nursing is sometimes its own > worst enemy.. I know many may disagree but it is just my opinion. > > > > Frederick Kinsella MSN CRNP > > Family Nurse Practitioner > > Director Health Services > > Associate Director Health & Counseling Center > > > > Gettysburg College > > 300 North Washington St > > Gettysburg, PA 17325 > > > > 717 337-6970 > > 717 337-6978 Fax > > > ________________________________ > > > From: pacnp_member-bounces@pacnp.org > [mailto:pacnp_member-bounces@pacnp.org] On Behalf Of ALJJP@aol.com > Sent: Thursday, April 03, 2008 10:41 PM > To: lorimpcrnp@yahoo.com; pacnp_member@pacnp.org > Subject: Re: [Pacnp_member] Interesting info > > > > Our national NAPNAP president sent a reply to the Wall Street > Journal, obviously disagreeing with much that was in the article... > Note that those requesting we take this "exam" are mostly > non-nurses.... > > > > This will certainly open lots of dialogue on the DNP and NP once > again!!! > > > > ANN L. PRON > > PA Del Val chapter NAPNAP > > > > In a message dated 4/3/2008 9:42:57 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time, > lorimpcrnp@yahoo.com writes: > > Listserv colleagues--here is our future! Be sure to click on the > drop down menu for About CACC and ABCC and look at the members!! > > > > > > http://www.abcc.dnpcert.org/pressrelease.shtml > > > > > > I have also added an article that was in the wall street journal > http://online.wsj.com/article/SB120710036831882059.html.html > > > > Lori Martin-Plank, CRNP > > Secy, PCNP > > > ________________________________ > > > You rock. That's why Blockbuster's offering you one month of > Blockbuster Total Access > blockbuster/text5.com> , No Cost. > > _______________________________________________ > Pacnp_member mailing list > Pacnp_member@pacnp.org > http://www.pacnp.org/mailman/listinfo/pacnp_member > > > > > > > ________________________________ > > > Planning your summer road trip? Check out AOL Travel Guides > ncid=aoltrv00030000000016> . > > > _______________________________________________ > Pacnp_member mailing list > Pacnp_member@pacnp.org > http://www.pacnp.org/mailman/listinfo/pacnp_member > > > > > > > -- > > > _______________________________________________ > Pacnp_member mailing list > Pacnp_member@pacnp.org > http://www.pacnp.org/mailman/listinfo/pacnp_member > _______________________________________________ Pacnp_member mailing list Pacnp_member@pacnp.org http://www.pacnp.org/mailman/listinfo/pacnp_member CONFIDENTIALITY NOTICE. This e-mail and attachments (if any) are the sole property of Children's Hospital of Pittsburgh and may contain information that is confidential, proprietary, privileged or otherwise prohibited by law from disclosure or re-disclosure. This information is intended solely for the individual(s) or entity(ies) to whom this e-mail or attachments are addressed. If you have received this e-mail in error, you are prohibited from using, copying, saving or disclosing this information to anyone else. Please destroy the message and any attachments immediately and notify the sender by return e-mail. Thank you. From tmdavis.ddc at comcast.net Mon Apr 7 18:38:18 2008 From: tmdavis.ddc at comcast.net (tmdavis.ddc@comcast.net) Date: Mon Apr 7 18:39:13 2008 Subject: [Pacnp_member] April 19th, Cardiovascular conference Message-ID: <040720082238.19614.47FAA25A00030C0000004C9E22069997350C0B0BD29C07900E0B039B@comcast.net> Colleagues, You still have time to register for the HeartWise '08 conference covering cardiovascular issues. We are really excited to have Dr. Allen Taylor and Dr. Harold Bays, among other great speakers, presenting on a variety of topics applicable to our practices. The course offers 8 CMEs at a reasonable tuition. If you have any questions, please don't hesitate to email me. Hope to see you there! 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But just my own researched opinion on the numerous educational opportunities we have as nurses!!! --- wlbrian@comcast.net wrote: > Your concept may be worth considering except most of > the programs that I have considered don't > necessarily focus on making me a better clinician, > but are more geared towards health policy and > admistrative roles. If I felt that getting a DNP > would make me a better NP after 13 years in practice > I would be the first in line but as I have reviewed > the curriculum at the Universities in my communiting > area I do not think they offer things that will > offer knowledge base just political base. > > Wendy Brian > Adult and Women Health Nurse Practitioner > > -------------- Original message -------------- > From: "Penrose, Joyce." > > > I've been a nurse practitioner since 1973 and at > first I was really opposed to > > the DNP concept - yet another manifestation of > nursing's inability to decide on > > the preparation of nurses and stick to it, I > thought . And we already had the > > DNS which, as I remember it, was to be a > practice-based alternative to the PhD. > > Also, we developed the ND which, as far as I can > tell, never really caught on. > > So why did we need a DNP? Yet another example of > the highly educated among our > > ranks disenfranchising the rest of us who are > working in the proverbial > > "trenches" just trying to provide the best patient > care we can? > > > > As time as passed, however, I have started seeing > things differently, especially > > from my position as educator of future nurse > practitioners. When our specialty > > developed we emphasized primary care of children > with a focus on health > > promotion and early detection of conditions such > as amblyopia which at that time > > were often diagnosed only on entry to first grade, > too late for any effective > > corrective action to be taken. I don't think that > the NP role as it is now > > conceptualized - with its emphasis on health > promotion, disease detection, > > diagnosing and managing acute conditions and > helping patients manage chronic > > disease and consequences of aging - was ever > anticipated by those early > > educators and NPs, themselves. And the amount of > time and number of credits in > > master's programs are, I fear, insufficient to the > task of preparing clinicians > > to meet today's expectations. So I've come to > think that the DNP could be a > > solution to providing the education that NPs need > now and in the future. > > > > > > Joyce E. Penrose, DrPH, CRNP, FNP-BC > > > > Clarion, Edinboro and Slippery Rock Universities > > > > Master of Science in Nursing Program > > > > 115A Strain Building > > > > Slippery Rock University > > > > Slippery Rock, PA 16057 > > > > Phone: 724 738 2323 > > > > Fax: 724 738 2509 > > > > Email: joyce.penrose@sru.edu > > > > ________________________________ > > > > From: pacnp_member-bounces@pacnp.org on behalf of > Elayne DeSimone > > Sent: Fri 4/4/2008 4:40 PM > > To: Frederick Kinsella > > Cc: ALJJP@aol.com; pacnp_member@pacnp.org > > Subject: Re: [Pacnp_member] Interesting info > > > > > > Oh I so agree with you Frederick. Despite all the > assurances to the contrary, I > > wonder if all my years of experience as a master's > prepared ANP and my PhD, will > > count in either the clinical arena or in academia, > if this new certification > > becomes a reality. > > > > Elayne DeSimone, PhD, CRNP > > Clinical Associate Professor, Stony Brook > University > > ANP - CVIM > > > > > > On Fri, Apr 4, 2008 at 3:33 PM, Frederick Kinsella > > > wrote: > > > > > > I wonder if the academicians who list DNP > currently and especially those > > on this board, will need to "be tested" before > being allowed to teach in DNP > > programs. > > > > > > > > It's late Friday but it just seems like nursing is > sometimes its own > > worst enemy.. I know many may disagree but it is > just my opinion. > > > > > > > > Frederick Kinsella MSN CRNP > > > > Family Nurse Practitioner > > > > Director Health Services > > > > Associate Director Health & Counseling Center > > > > > > > > Gettysburg College > > > > 300 North Washington St > > > > Gettysburg, PA 17325 > > > > > > > > 717 337-6970 > > > > 717 337-6978 Fax > > > > > > ________________________________ > > > > > > From: pacnp_member-bounces@pacnp.org > > [mailto:pacnp_member-bounces@pacnp.org] On Behalf > Of ALJJP@aol.com > > Sent: Thursday, April 03, 2008 10:41 PM > > To: lorimpcrnp@yahoo.com; pacnp_member@pacnp.org > > Subject: Re: [Pacnp_member] Interesting info > > > > > > > > Our national NAPNAP president sent a reply to the > Wall Street Journal, > > obviously disagreeing with much that was in the > article... Note that those > > requesting we take this "exam" are mostly > non-nurses.... > > > > > > > > This will certainly open lots of dialogue on the > DNP and NP once > > again!!! > > > > > > > > ANN L. PRON > > > > PA Del Val chapter NAPNAP > > > > > > > > In a message dated 4/3/2008 9:42:57 P.M. Eastern > Daylight Time, > > lorimpcrnp@yahoo.com writes: > > > > Listserv colleagues--here is our future! Be sure > to click on > > the drop down menu for About CACC and ABCC and > look at the members!! > > > > > > > > > > > > http://www.abcc.dnpcert.org/pressrelease.shtml > > > > > > > > > > > > I have also added an article that was in the wall > street journal > === message truncated ===> _______________________________________________ > Pacnp_member mailing list > Pacnp_member@pacnp.org > http://www.pacnp.org/mailman/listinfo/pacnp_member > ____________________________________________________________________________________ You rock. That's why Blockbuster's offering you one month of Blockbuster Total Access, No Cost. http://tc.deals.yahoo.com/tc/blockbuster/text5.com From pa.cnp at verizon.net Tue Apr 8 09:09:55 2008 From: pa.cnp at verizon.net (pacnp) Date: Tue Apr 8 08:11:17 2008 Subject: [Pacnp_member] FW: posting for list serve Message-ID: <046c01c89979$d74fc180$0301a8c0@Margie> Earn Penn State graduate credit in Pharmacologic Therapy Enrollment is now open for Penn State's summer 2008 course, Pharmacologic Therapy (NURS 504). May 14 - June 30 online No travel needed: This year's course will be delivered via three video streams plus independent course work. The video streams will take place on May 14, June 4, and June 24, and provide participants the opportunity to interact with instructor, Sharon Falkenstern http://www.hhdev.psu.edu/nurs/faculty/falkenstern.html. . Video streams will also be archived for course reference. 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We will post details on the progress of the petition on our Web site (www.aanp.org) over the next few weeks. If you have any difficulties with the link, please copy and paste the following URL into your browser: http://66.219.50.185/petition Thank you for taking the time to support this important issue. Sincerely, Mona Counts, PhD, CRNP, FNAP, FAANP Judith Dempster, DNSc, FNP, FAANP President Executive Director Sheila Gealey sgealey@yahoo.com __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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URL: http://www.legalisi.com/pipermail/pacnp_member/attachments/20080410/71b8a1da/attachment.html From marthamaf at verizon.net Fri Apr 11 17:45:56 2008 From: marthamaf at verizon.net (martha) Date: Fri Apr 11 17:47:09 2008 Subject: [Pacnp_member] post to list Message-ID: <001701c89c1d$6d1beb30$2d01a8c0@office> marthamaf@verizon.net -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://www.legalisi.com/pipermail/pacnp_member/attachments/20080411/a9642310/attachment.html From pa.cnp at verizon.net Fri Apr 11 21:32:01 2008 From: pa.cnp at verizon.net (pacnp) Date: Fri Apr 11 21:33:29 2008 Subject: [Pacnp_member] FW: Regulatory Update Message-ID: <066801c89c3d$01afdda0$0301a8c0@Margie> Dear Colleagues- I wanted to update you on the Regulations and the plan that PCNP has mapped out to prepare everyone for the period of public comment for our proposed regulations. PCNP recently sent out a letter to all CRNPs in the state (6,400) discussing the issues of the regulations, what the key points are and what the approach should be when writing to the Board of Nursing. I listed my email contact on that letter and have heard from people around the state with positive comments and being very appreciative of keeping them informed. Some questions were posed as to WHEN to send the letters, so I thought it would be a good time for an update. If you have already written your letter, just keep it in a safe place and we will let you know when the 30 day period begins. When that time comes, PCNP officers, Morgan Plant, myself and our attorney will take a very close read and make certain that the key points that need comments are brought to your attention. When to Write the Letters? I realize it is frustrating, but we don't have an exact date yet when you need to mail in letters. In our spring newsletter I had written that late March/early April was the time we anticipated writing to begin. As it can go in government processes, that has not yet occurred. The regulations are sitting in the Office of General Council for review. Morgan Plant and I were in discussion with the Office of Health Care Reform in the past few weeks, and it is now projected that our regulations would become "proposed rulemaking" sometime in late May or early June. When that happens, we will post information on the list serve and send out a follow up post card to all 6,400 CRNPs in Pennsylvania letting them know to start mailing in letters. What do letters look like that have been submitted to IRRC in the past? For those of you who have not done this in the past and feel shy about writing, I have enclosed a link to the recent Pennsylvania Physician Assistant regulations from IRRC and the listing of letters that were submitted. Click on the link, then go to Proposed Comments sections: http://www.irrc.state.pa.us/Regulations/RegInfo.cfm?IRRCNo=2505#RegFiles You can read all the comments that were written. IRRC has bundled the comments that are "form" letters, and you can also read letters from individuals, institutions or associations that are listed separately. It was helpful for me to read through and see what people wrote. Most of the letters talk about "improving health care" . Keep that in mind when you are formulating what you want to say. That will have the most impact. If you or your colleagues have any suggestions of other organizations, citizen groups, or ways of generating more interest in support of our regulatory changes, please send me an email with your suggestions. I would like to have more consumers writing in. We've all heard our patients say, "I've never had anyone examine me so thoroughly before" and "you are such a good listener and I feel so well-cared for!" Now is the time to ask them to support our efforts so more Pennsylvanians can see a nurse practitioner for their health care needs. Thanks again! Sue Susan M. Schrand, MSN, CRNP Executive Director Pennsylvania Coalition of Nurse Practitioners P.O. Box 545 Mechanicsburg, PA 17055 Ph/Fax (717) 766-4458 sschrand@pacnp.org www.pacnp.org -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://www.legalisi.com/pipermail/pacnp_member/attachments/20080411/68c9ff84/attachment-0001.html From mora786 at comcast.net Sun Apr 13 14:16:42 2008 From: mora786 at comcast.net (Rahat Sayed) Date: Sun Apr 13 14:17:53 2008 Subject: [Pacnp_member] new member Message-ID: <041320081816.7066.48024E0A0008155000001B9A2200762302C0C8C90E9D0103@comcast.net> Please include me in your list serve Rahat Sayed MSN, CRNP mora786@comcast.net 215-491-5213 215-870-6208 cell -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://www.legalisi.com/pipermail/pacnp_member/attachments/20080413/fac3fa8d/attachment.html From gywn2000 at optonline.net Sun Apr 13 16:46:23 2008 From: gywn2000 at optonline.net (gywn2000@optonline.net) Date: Sun Apr 13 16:47:38 2008 Subject: [Pacnp_member] FW: Regulatory Update In-Reply-To: <066801c89c3d$01afdda0$0301a8c0@Margie> References: <066801c89c3d$01afdda0$0301a8c0@Margie> Message-ID: I am a new NP in NJ and also recently applied for my CRNP license in PA. I have a question: Does this e-mail regarding the proposed regulation affect CRNP's as well, and are PA's and CRNP's considered the same in PA? Also, does anyone know approx how long it takes to get your NP license in PA? Thanks, Gail Williams, RN, MSN, APRN-BC ----- Original Message ----- From: pacnp Date: Friday, April 11, 2008 9:32 pm Subject: [Pacnp_member] FW: Regulatory Update To: pacnp_member@pacnp.org > > > Dear Colleagues- > > I wanted to update you on the Regulations and the plan that PCNP has > mapped out to prepare everyone for the period of public comment > for our > proposed regulations. PCNP recently sent out a letter to all > CRNPs in > the state (6,400) discussing the issues of the regulations, what > the key > points are and what the approach should be when writing to the > Board of > Nursing. I listed my email contact on that letter and have > heard from > people around the state with positive comments and being very > appreciative of keeping them informed. Some questions were > posed as to > WHEN to send the letters, so I thought it would be a good time > for an > update. If you have already written your letter, just keep it > in a safe > place and we will let you know when the 30 day period begins. When > that time comes, PCNP officers, Morgan Plant, myself and our attorney > will take a very close read and make certain that the key points that > need comments are brought to your attention. > > When to Write the Letters? > I realize it is frustrating, but we don't have an exact date yet when > you need to mail in letters. In our spring newsletter I had written > that late March/early April was the time we anticipated writing to > begin. As it can go in government processes, that has not yet > occurred.The regulations are sitting in the Office of General > Council for review. > Morgan Plant and I were in discussion with the Office of Health Care > Reform in the past few weeks, and it is now projected that our > regulations would become "proposed rulemaking" sometime in late > May or > early June. > > When that happens, we will post information on the list serve > and send > out a follow up post card to all 6,400 CRNPs in Pennsylvania letting > them know to start mailing in letters. > > What do letters look like that have been submitted to IRRC in > the past? > > For those of you who have not done this in the past and feel shy about > writing, I have enclosed a link to the recent Pennsylvania Physician > Assistant regulations from IRRC and the listing of letters that were > submitted. Click on the link, then go to Proposed Comments sections: > > http://www.irrc.state.pa.us/Regulations/RegInfo.cfm?IRRCNo=2505#RegFiles > > > You can read all the comments that were written. IRRC has > bundled the > comments that are "form" letters, and you can also read letters from > individuals, institutions or associations that are listed separately. > It was helpful for me to read through and see what people wrote. > Most > of the letters talk about "improving health care" . Keep that > in mind > when you are formulating what you want to say. That will have > the most > impact. > > If you or your colleagues have any suggestions of other > organizations,citizen groups, or ways of generating more > interest in support of our > regulatory changes, please send me an email with your > suggestions. I > would like to have more consumers writing in. We've all heard our > patients say, "I've never had anyone examine me so thoroughly before" > and "you are such a good listener and I feel so well-cared for!" > Now is > the time to ask them to support our efforts so more > Pennsylvanians can > see a nurse practitioner for their health care needs. > > Thanks again! > > Sue > > Susan M. Schrand, MSN, CRNP > Executive Director > Pennsylvania Coalition of Nurse Practitioners > P.O. Box 545 > Mechanicsburg, PA 17055 > Ph/Fax (717) 766-4458 > sschrand@pacnp.org www.pacnp.org > > > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://www.legalisi.com/pipermail/pacnp_member/attachments/20080413/817b67ae/attachment.html From janepond at prodigy.net Mon Apr 14 13:06:51 2008 From: janepond at prodigy.net (JANE POND) Date: Mon Apr 14 13:08:07 2008 Subject: [Pacnp_member] Good NP Press Message-ID: <855095.23766.qm@web80207.mail.mud.yahoo.com> An article about NPs in Drugstore clinics. http://news.enquirer.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20080414/NEWS01/804140318 Jane Pond From pa.cnp at verizon.net Tue Apr 15 06:53:36 2008 From: pa.cnp at verizon.net (pacnp) Date: Tue Apr 15 06:55:23 2008 Subject: [Pacnp_member] FW: ACNP Member Update - April 2008 Message-ID: <073201c89ee6$f84fdfb0$0301a8c0@Margie> -----Original Message----- From: ACNP Membership [mailto:acnp@acnpweb.org] Sent: Saturday, April 12, 2008 10:46 PM To: pcnp@pacnp.org Subject: ACNP Member Update - April 2008 American College of Nurse Practitioners Member Update April 2008 ACNP logo white ACNP President Responds to Wall Street Journal Article An April 2, Wall Street Journal article entitled "Making Room for Dr. Nurse" garnered much discussion in the advanced practice nursing community. ACNP, along with many other nursing organizations forwarded letters to the editor. For the letter to the editor from ACNP President, Dr. Julie Stanik-Hutt, click here. To view the WSJ article, click here. Joint Decisions Optimizing the Management of Rheumatoid Arthritis Complementary CE Web-Enhanced Teleconference: LIVE Case Studies and Q&A Rheumatoid arthritis (RA) is a common condition in primary care, affecting approximately 2 million adults in the United States. If RA is left untreated, as many as 80% of affected patients will become disabled and unable to perform many of the activities of daily living. Such data have underscored the importance of early identification and treatment. By becoming cognizant of the initial signs and symptoms of RA and being able to distinguish the disease from others with similar symptoms, primary care clinicians can initiate pain- relief therapy early and refer patients to a rheumatologist for disease-modifying therapy in a timely manner. It is important that primary care clinicians be aware of the mechanisms of action of these agents, be better able to prescribe them appropriately, and be aware of preventive measures to reduce risk. As a result, clinicians will be better able counsel and guide their patients in regard to optimal treatment regimens. Don't miss this 1-hour Web-enhanced teleconference which will provide Nurse Practitioners with evidence- based strategies to partner with rheumatologists in proactively assessing, diagnosing, and treating patients with RA, with the goal of significantly impact patient outcomes. For more information click here ;or to register click here. Primary Care - Response by ACNP President published in USA Today In response to a USA article about the shortage of primary care physicians in the US, ACNP President, Julie Stanik-Hutt forwarded a response noting the role of nurse practitioners in primary care. To view the ACNP response and the USA Today article, click here. Medical Home "Talking Points" With much focus on medical homes and discussion about which providers might quality as a medical home, ACNP has developed talking points to summarize the pertinent information for NPs in discussing this issues. For ACNP Medical Homes talking points, click here. NIH requests feedback on RCDC website The National Institutes of Health (NIH) Office of Portfolio Analysis and Strategic Initiatives (OPASI), in the Office of the Director, is building a new computer- based system for Research, Condition, and Disease Categorization (RCDC). The NIH will use RCDC to categorize how it spends the Nation's investment in medical research. The NIH will conduct a national information campaign to introduce and explain the new RCDC system to the public. You are invited to review a portion of a draft RCDC website. Because this is a static website in development, your feedback is requested on the content, but not on its look or usability. If you can help NIH, please click on this link http://ww w.palladianpartners.com/rcdc which will take you to the draft RCDC website. After reading the information about RCDC on the website, please provide your comments through a five-minute questionnaire linked to the website. The NIH greatly appreciates your time and interest. FTC public workshop to examine recent trends in health care delivery The Federal Trade Commission will host a one-day public workshop on April 24, 2008, to examine recent trends in health care delivery. In a series of panel discussions, workshop participants will consider the competition and consumer protection issues regarding particular health care delivery innovations. These participants will represent a broad range of interests, including physician and healthcare associations, industry, government, privacy groups, academics, and other experts. To register or for more information click here. Make your plans now to attend the ACNP National Clinical Conference - Nashville, TN, October 29 - November 2, 2008. American College of Nurse Practitioners E-mail: acnp@acnpweb.org Phone: 703.740.2529 Forward email Safe Unsubscribe This email was sent to pcnp@pacnp.org, by acnp@acnpweb.org Update Profile/Email Address | Instant removal with SafeUnsubscribe T | Privacy Policy . Email Marketing by American College of Nurse Practitioners | 1501 Wilson Blvd. | Suite 509 | Arlington | VA | 22209 -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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Name: not available Type: image/jpeg Size: 3740 bytes Desc: not available Url : http://www.legalisi.com/pipermail/pacnp_member/attachments/20080416/6068d62b/attachment.jpe From pa.cnp at verizon.net Wed Apr 16 15:21:25 2008 From: pa.cnp at verizon.net (pacnp) Date: Wed Apr 16 15:22:56 2008 Subject: [Pacnp_member] Job Opportunity - Eastern, PA Message-ID: <001301c89ff7$131941e0$0301a8c0@Margie> Nurse Practitioner - Adult Health, FT, New Graduates Considered Full-time Abington, PA We are looking for an adult health CRNP to join our busy 9-physician pulmonary practice affiliated with Abington Memorial Hospital. Join two other NPs as we focus on the pulmonary, critical care and sleep needs of our patients. This position is for the outpatient non-critical care component of our practice. Requirements: . MSN, Board Certification and prescriptive authority eligibility Resumes may be sent confidentially to mkelly@lungdocs.org. Please include your salary requirements. EOE -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://www.legalisi.com/pipermail/pacnp_member/attachments/20080416/b26aa057/attachment-0001.html From pa.cnp at verizon.net Wed Apr 16 15:21:25 2008 From: pa.cnp at verizon.net (pacnp) Date: Wed Apr 16 15:22:57 2008 Subject: [Pacnp_member] Job Opportunity - Western PA Message-ID: <001801c89ff7$1337ed70$0301a8c0@Margie> NURSE PRACTITIONERS The opportunity to make a difference and the freedom to be yourself. Infinity NP employs Advanced Practice Nurses who specialize in medical management of Long Term Care facility residents. Working in collaboration with primary care physicians, our NPs ensure timely response to a wide range of resident needs, from routine chronic conditions to random accidents and potentially serious injuries. Early intervention is the foundation of our effectiveness. We focus on the broad spectrum of clinical issues that affect quality of life for elderly patients, with an eye to proactive evaluation and rapid treatment. As an NP on our team, you will provide specialized interventions for pain management, wound management, and reducing the risk of falls. Benefits include health, vision, dental, medical and dependent care flexible spending accounts, life and disability coverage, 401k, paid holidays and reimbursement for liability insurance. No employment contracts. Candidates must possess an active CRNP license and be nationally certified. Prescriptive authority preferred but not required. Our NPs appreciate the freedom to practice their profession, enhance resident lives AND make it home for dinner. If you would like to hear more about Infinity NP and the immediate part-time employment opportunities in the Greenville area, please call Christy Morgan toll-free at 1-866-220-2750, ext. 222 or fax or e-mail your resume to 614-818-3906 or e-mail at cjm@infinitynp.com. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://www.legalisi.com/pipermail/pacnp_member/attachments/20080416/cc97cf41/attachment.html From mrgnplant at aol.com Wed Apr 16 16:50:47 2008 From: mrgnplant at aol.com (Morgan Plant) Date: Wed Apr 16 16:51:47 2008 Subject: [Pacnp_member] AMNews: April 21, 2008. Advanced-practice nurses seek wider scope in 24 states ... American Medical News Message-ID: <3EBB134B-6A47-4DBC-9AEB-F55E85189E92@aol.com> American Medical News SECTIONS Government Profession Business Opinion Health LISTINGS Latest issue By date By region Map By health plan By section News briefs Columns Editorials Letters Write Topics Series Other years Resources Search SERVICES Access info Premium Joining AMA Mobile edition E-mail alert Radio RSS Subscribe Institutions Staff directory Author bios Advertising Permissions News media Reprints Site guide AMNews FAQ Contact info Contact PROFESSIONAL ISSUES Advanced-practice nurses seek wider scope in 24 states Physician leaders fear that expanding the range of services nurses can provide may threaten patient safety. By Myrle Croasdale, AMNews staff. April 21, 2008. Advanced-practice nurses are the focus of a new wave of scope-of- practice bills that are making their way to state lawmakers. At least 24 states are already considering bills or are expecting measures to be introduced this year. Measures address issues such as independent practice, doctor supervision of nurses, prescribing authority, or extended prescribing, including of controlled substances. Discuss on Sermo Nursing measures in the works See related content Region: States Advanced-practice nurses -- a group that includes nurse practitioners, nurse anesthetists and nurse midwives -- say they are working within their training and are filling a void that is being left by a growing physician shortage. Physicians, however, worry patient safety will be compromised. APNs working outside a physician-led team raise concerns, said AMA Board of Trustees Secretary William A. Hazel Jr., MD. If nonphysicians do not have the proper education for the scope they seek, physicians need to act. He said, "we have to do the right thing by patients." States ponder prescribing expansions In Missouri, state legislators are considering a bill to allow advanced-practice nurses to prescribe medications, including narcotics. That would put patients at risk, said Julie Marx, DO, an internist in North Kansas City, Mo. By 2015, about 200 nursing schools will offer doctorate of nursing programs. "Nurses have limited diagnosing and prescribing skills," said Dr. Marx, a former nurse. "They have physician supervision [under the bill's language], but the physician only looks over what they already prescribed [and only] once or twice a month. But by then the harm is done. The patient took the drugs already." In Ohio, a similar bill would let APNs prescribe narcotics and other controlled drugs. That measure is opposed by the Ohio State Medical Assn. "These drugs should be prescribed only by physicians," said Randy Wexler, MD, MPH, legislative task force chair for the OSMA. In Florida, one bill would require labs to accept specimens sent by advanced-practice nurses. Other legislation would allow APNs to prescribe controlled substances to patients in medically underserved areas or to underserved populations. "We need less narcotics out in the field, not more," said Cyneetha Strong, MD, president of the Florida Academy of Family Physicians. But Susan Apold, RN, PhD, past president of the American Academy of Nurse Practitioners, said that if nurse practitioners safely prescribe controlled substances in one state, they should be allowed to do it in all 50 states. "In some states, a nurse practitioner can prescribe controlled substances, but not all controlled substances," Dr. Apold said. "Why? What's the evidence for that decision?" Dr. Apold added, "If the education, experience and skill exist, why have legislation that prevents the provider from giving that care?" New law raises supervision concerns Pennsylvania is one state where scope expansion is being closely watched by physicians. In 2007, Gov. Edward G. Rendell signed into law scope expansions for nurse practitioners, clinical nurse specialists, nurse midwives, physician assistants and dental hygienists. Nurse practitioners, who had limited prescribing authority, gained the right to order medical equipment and to refer patients directly to physical therapists and similar practitioners. Nurse midwives, who previously could not write prescriptions, were granted prescribing privileges that included controlled substances. This spring, the Pennsylvania State Board of Nursing is expected to release new regulations based on the law. Susan Schrand, CRNP, executive director for the Pennsylvania Coalition of Nurse Practitioners, said the law removed antiquated language and allowed NPs to do what most states already permit. Pennsylvania Medical Society President Peter S. Lund, MD, fears that the regulatory language in the law may loosen physician supervision. "The problem we're concerned about is retail clinics," Dr. Lund said. The growing number of retail clinics creates pressure to increase the number of nurse practitioners a physician may oversee. The law allows off-site physicians to collaborate with four nurse practitioners a day and, in some cases, up to eight. "In the near term, the only way to expand is to have allied professionals work with us," Dr. Lund said. "And that's what we'd like to do -- with the appropriate supervision." Nurse leaders say scope-expanding legislation will improve access to health care, especially in light of physician shortages. A study by the Pennsylvania Medical Society, for example, estimated that the state will be short 10,000 doctors in 10 years. "There are manpower issues in medicine, and there is reason to expect there will be more and more pressure for nonphysicians to treat patients," said the American Medical Association's Dr. Hazel. Push on scope prompted by more programs? But physician leaders said expansion efforts on scope of practice also are being spurred by an increase in the number of advanced degree programs. By 2015, the American Assn. of Colleges of Nursing will require its approximately 200 member schools that offer advanced degrees to also offer a doctorate of nursing program. Nurse-doctorates consider themselves primary care practitioners qualified to diagnose and treat patients. But James King, MD, president of the American Academy of Family Physicians, said these nurses should still be part of a physician-led team. "I would never see the nurse as leading that team in a patient- centered medical home," Dr. King said. Nursing leader Dr. Apold disagrees. "The head of the team should be the person best able to provide that service at the time," she said. Discuss on SermoBack to top. ADDITIONAL INFORMATION: Nursing measures in the works Advanced-practice nurses, including nurse practitioners, nurse anesthetists and nurse midwives, are likely to push for legislation on a variety of scope-of-practice issues this year. Independent practice or establishing of an independent licensing board: Alabama, California, Colorado, Maryland, Massachusetts, New York, North Carolina, South Carolina, Tennessee, Utah, Vermont Prescribing authority, including independent prescribing rights and prescribing of controlled substances: California, Florida, Illinois, Massachusetts, Michigan, Missouri, Ohio, New York, West Virginia Direct reimbursement from commercial insurers, Medicaid or Medicare: California, Kentucky, Massachusetts, New York, North Dakota, Utah Other scope areas, such as authority to certify death, supervise fluoroscopic x-ray systems, provide pain management, and make mental health and substance abuse commitments: Alabama, Florida, Iowa, Kansas, Louisiana, Nebraska, Oklahoma Sources: Scope of Practice Partnership, Federation of State Medical Boards Back to top. Copyright 2008 American Medical Association. All rights reserved. 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My biggest concern is... the consultants and the administration have assigned a $20 value to the NPs and PAs RVU but the physicians get a $31 RVU. For those of you who may have plans similar to this, what is the $ value of the RVU that is assigned to the NPs? Also, is your base salary 70% of what your previous year's gross salary was? (if that makes sense). I need some help here. I feel very devalued with this $20 RVU and the PAs and NPs in our group are experienced, hardworking, and provide quality care. Alot of the doctors we work with are not!! Sheilah Yohn ********************************************************************** Sheilah Yohn, MSN, CRNP FHA Belleville 5 Hedgeapple Drive Belleville, PA 17004 Phone- (717) 667-9030 Fax- (717) 667-9165 Web Site: http://www.lewistownhospital.org The Mission of the Lewistown Healthcare Foundation (LHF) is to provide personal, high quality, economical health care that meets the needs of our communities. ********************************************************************** The information contained in the electronic message is privileged and confidential information intended for the use of the addressee listed above. If you are neither the intended recipient or the employee or agent responsible for delivering this information to the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any disclosure, copying, distribution, or taking of any action in reliance on the content of this telecopied information is strictly prohibited. If you receive this e-mail in error, please immediately notify us by telephone to arrange for return of the original document. From loritrauntvein at hotmail.com Wed Apr 16 21:02:02 2008 From: loritrauntvein at hotmail.com (Lori Trauntvein) Date: Wed Apr 16 21:02:49 2008 Subject: [Pacnp_member] compensation In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: I have worked in a similar situation, with $20/RVU as well. Will your employer provide you with a copy of your productivity report from the last 12 months? If you do the math, will you be making a satisfactory salary (less or more than before)? I would use that to gauge whether or not to feel devalued or not. I have the opinion that, while you are an experienced provider who provides quality care, there may be more responsibility (liability or otherwise) on the part of the physician, which may warrant a higher compensation (although I am not sure of your exact circumstances). You may want to take that into consideration while you are deciding if this is a job you want to stay with. Good luck. -------------------------------------------------- From: "YOHN, SHEILAH" Sent: Wednesday, April 16, 2008 5:37 PM To: "PCNP list serve (E-mail)" Subject: [Pacnp_member] compensation > Dear Colleagues, > > My employer is "rolling out" a new compensation plan for all the > providers. We will have a base salary which will be 70% of our current > gross salary with monthly "bonuses" based on our previous 3 month avg > productivity. My biggest concern is... the consultants and the > administration have assigned a $20 value to the NPs and PAs RVU but the > physicians get a $31 RVU. For those of you who may have plans similar to > this, what is the $ value of the RVU that is assigned to the NPs? Also, is > your base salary 70% of what your previous year's gross salary was? (if > that makes sense). I need some help here. I feel very devalued with this > $20 RVU and the PAs and NPs in our group are experienced, hardworking, and > provide quality care. Alot of the doctors we work with are not!! > > Sheilah Yohn > > ********************************************************************** > Sheilah Yohn, MSN, CRNP > FHA Belleville > 5 Hedgeapple Drive > Belleville, PA 17004 > Phone- (717) 667-9030 > Fax- (717) 667-9165 > Web Site: http://www.lewistownhospital.org > > The Mission of the Lewistown Healthcare Foundation (LHF) is to provide > personal, high quality, economical health care that meets the needs of our > communities. > ********************************************************************** > The information contained in the electronic message is privileged and > confidential information intended for the use of the addressee listed > above. If you are neither the intended recipient or the employee or agent > responsible for delivering this information to the intended recipient, you > are hereby notified that any disclosure, copying, distribution, or taking > of any action in reliance on the content of this telecopied information is > strictly prohibited. If you receive this e-mail in error, please > immediately notify us by telephone to arrange for return of the original > document. > > > > _______________________________________________ > Pacnp_member mailing list > Pacnp_member@pacnp.org > http://www.pacnp.org/mailman/listinfo/pacnp_member > From melvin_donna at yahoo.com Wed Apr 16 21:06:12 2008 From: melvin_donna at yahoo.com (Donna Melvin) Date: Wed Apr 16 21:07:02 2008 Subject: [Pacnp_member] question Message-ID: <515063.78149.qm@web62503.mail.re1.yahoo.com> Hello everyone, Does anyone know if an NP moonlights as an RN preforming RN duties what level of malpractice he/she should carry? I'm thinking it should be at the highest level of education regardless. Can anyone speak to this? Also if preforning an RN role how would you sign your notes? Thanks Donna --------------------------------- Be a better friend, newshound, and know-it-all with Yahoo! Mobile. Try it now. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://www.legalisi.com/pipermail/pacnp_member/attachments/20080416/7cd7881c/attachment.html From jhtweedy at comcast.net Wed Apr 16 21:07:04 2008 From: jhtweedy at comcast.net (Jessica H. Tweedy, CRNP) Date: Wed Apr 16 21:09:06 2008 Subject: [nursing] Re: [Pacnp_member] compensation In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <001801c8a027$59efde00$640fa8c0@REDSMACHINE> You should also ask them for a list of RVUs. When I worked in the ER we also got bonuses based on RVUs and there were HUGE differences in RVU values for various procedures... pulse ox was big, as was reading an EKG, but reading a chest x-ray was fairly neutral. It made a difference in how I practiced - which you may find difficult/disturbing. Certainly something else to consider. -- Jessica -----Original Message----- From: pacnp_member-bounces@pacnp.org [mailto:pacnp_member-bounces@pacnp.org]On Behalf Of Lori Trauntvein Sent: Wednesday, April 16, 2008 9:02 PM To: YOHN, SHEILAH; PCNP list serve (E-mail) Subject: [nursing] Re: [Pacnp_member] compensation I have worked in a similar situation, with $20/RVU as well. Will your employer provide you with a copy of your productivity report from the last 12 months? If you do the math, will you be making a satisfactory salary (less or more than before)? I would use that to gauge whether or not to feel devalued or not. I have the opinion that, while you are an experienced provider who provides quality care, there may be more responsibility (liability or otherwise) on the part of the physician, which may warrant a higher compensation (although I am not sure of your exact circumstances). You may want to take that into consideration while you are deciding if this is a job you want to stay with. Good luck. -------------------------------------------------- From: "YOHN, SHEILAH" Sent: Wednesday, April 16, 2008 5:37 PM To: "PCNP list serve (E-mail)" Subject: [Pacnp_member] compensation > Dear Colleagues, > > My employer is "rolling out" a new compensation plan for all the > providers. We will have a base salary which will be 70% of our current > gross salary with monthly "bonuses" based on our previous 3 month avg > productivity. My biggest concern is... the consultants and the > administration have assigned a $20 value to the NPs and PAs RVU but the > physicians get a $31 RVU. For those of you who may have plans similar to > this, what is the $ value of the RVU that is assigned to the NPs? Also, is > your base salary 70% of what your previous year's gross salary was? (if > that makes sense). I need some help here. I feel very devalued with this > $20 RVU and the PAs and NPs in our group are experienced, hardworking, and > provide quality care. Alot of the doctors we work with are not!! > > Sheilah Yohn > > ********************************************************************** > Sheilah Yohn, MSN, CRNP > FHA Belleville > 5 Hedgeapple Drive > Belleville, PA 17004 > Phone- (717) 667-9030 > Fax- (717) 667-9165 > Web Site: http://www.lewistownhospital.org > > The Mission of the Lewistown Healthcare Foundation (LHF) is to provide > personal, high quality, economical health care that meets the needs of our > communities. > ********************************************************************** > The information contained in the electronic message is privileged and > confidential information intended for the use of the addressee listed > above. 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Version: 7.5.524 / Virus Database: 269.22.13/1377 - Release Date: 4/14/2008 9:26 AM From loritrauntvein at hotmail.com Wed Apr 16 21:18:34 2008 From: loritrauntvein at hotmail.com (Lori Trauntvein) Date: Wed Apr 16 21:19:19 2008 Subject: [nursing] Re: [Pacnp_member] compensation In-Reply-To: <001801c8a027$59efde00$640fa8c0@REDSMACHINE> References: <001801c8a027$59efde00$640fa8c0@REDSMACHINE> Message-ID: Rather than changing the way I practiced, it helped me to make sure I was billing (coding) properly, not neglecting to bill for any service that I provided. I actually had to consider what level of treatment I was providing, rather than just giving practically everything a level 3. I learned a lot from a mentor who was known in my organization for efficiency. I actually made a lot more when I went on to productivity than when I was hourly. But a big part of that depends on how busy your practice keeps you, and how well the scheduling staff books you. -------------------------------------------------- From: "Jessica H. Tweedy, CRNP" Sent: Wednesday, April 16, 2008 9:07 PM To: "'Lori Trauntvein'" ; "'YOHN, SHEILAH'" ; "'PCNP list serve (E-mail)'" Subject: RE: [nursing] Re: [Pacnp_member] compensation > You should also ask them for a list of RVUs. When I worked in the ER we > also got bonuses based on RVUs and there were HUGE differences in RVU > values > for various procedures... pulse ox was big, as was reading an EKG, but > reading a chest x-ray was fairly neutral. It made a difference in how I > practiced - which you may find difficult/disturbing. Certainly something > else to consider. > > -- Jessica > > -----Original Message----- > From: pacnp_member-bounces@pacnp.org > [mailto:pacnp_member-bounces@pacnp.org]On Behalf Of Lori Trauntvein > Sent: Wednesday, April 16, 2008 9:02 PM > To: YOHN, SHEILAH; PCNP list serve (E-mail) > Subject: [nursing] Re: [Pacnp_member] compensation > > > > I have worked in a similar situation, with $20/RVU as well. Will your > employer provide you with a copy of your productivity report from the last > 12 months? If you do the math, will you be making a satisfactory salary > (less or more than before)? I would use that to gauge whether or not to > feel devalued or not. I have the opinion that, while you are an > experienced > provider who provides quality care, there may be more responsibility > (liability or otherwise) on the part of the physician, which may warrant a > higher compensation (although I am not sure of your exact circumstances). > You may want to take that into consideration while you are deciding if > this > is a job you want to stay with. Good luck. > > -------------------------------------------------- > From: "YOHN, SHEILAH" > Sent: Wednesday, April 16, 2008 5:37 PM > To: "PCNP list serve (E-mail)" > Subject: [Pacnp_member] compensation > >> Dear Colleagues, >> >> My employer is "rolling out" a new compensation plan for all the >> providers. We will have a base salary which will be 70% of our current >> gross salary with monthly "bonuses" based on our previous 3 month avg >> productivity. My biggest concern is... the consultants and the >> administration have assigned a $20 value to the NPs and PAs RVU but the >> physicians get a $31 RVU. For those of you who may have plans similar to >> this, what is the $ value of the RVU that is assigned to the NPs? Also, >> is >> your base salary 70% of what your previous year's gross salary was? (if >> that makes sense). I need some help here. I feel very devalued with this >> $20 RVU and the PAs and NPs in our group are experienced, hardworking, >> and >> provide quality care. Alot of the doctors we work with are not!! >> >> Sheilah Yohn >> >> ********************************************************************** >> Sheilah Yohn, MSN, CRNP >> FHA Belleville >> 5 Hedgeapple Drive >> Belleville, PA 17004 >> Phone- (717) 667-9030 >> Fax- (717) 667-9165 >> Web Site: http://www.lewistownhospital.org >> >> The Mission of the Lewistown Healthcare Foundation (LHF) is to provide >> personal, high quality, economical health care that meets the needs of >> our >> communities. >> ********************************************************************** >> The information contained in the electronic message is privileged and >> confidential information intended for the use of the addressee listed >> above. If you are neither the intended recipient or the employee or agent >> responsible for delivering this information to the intended recipient, >> you >> are hereby notified that any disclosure, copying, distribution, or taking >> of any action in reliance on the content of this telecopied information >> is >> strictly prohibited. If you receive this e-mail in error, please >> immediately notify us by telephone to arrange for return of the original >> document. >> >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Pacnp_member mailing list >> Pacnp_member@pacnp.org >> http://www.pacnp.org/mailman/listinfo/pacnp_member >> > _______________________________________________ > Pacnp_member mailing list > Pacnp_member@pacnp.org > http://www.pacnp.org/mailman/listinfo/pacnp_member > No virus found in this incoming message. > Checked by AVG. > Version: 7.5.524 / Virus Database: 269.22.13/1377 - Release Date: > 4/14/2008 > 9:26 AM > > No virus found in this outgoing message. > Checked by AVG. > Version: 7.5.524 / Virus Database: 269.22.13/1377 - Release Date: > 4/14/2008 > 9:26 AM > > > From lmwcrnp at netzero.net Thu Apr 17 07:21:11 2008 From: lmwcrnp at netzero.net (lmwcrnp@netzero.net) Date: Thu Apr 17 07:23:13 2008 Subject: [Pacnp_member] Re: Nursing compensation Message-ID: <20080417.072111.23426.0@webmail17.dca.untd.com> Lori brings up a good point - you are only as busy as your front office people book you and I add you are only as good as your front office people. I encountered this in another practice - the Administration kept telling us "you HAVE to see more patients". I kept saying "I'm here - I'll see anyone who walks through the door or anyone who calls for an appointment". What the administration failed to see what that our front office staff gave poor customer service, the providers in the practice changed regularly and patients complained that they never got to see the same person twice, and we were losing more patients than we kept. The Administration did not support a level of practice that retained patients and brought in new patients so that we could see more patients. If its about getting to see enough patients to generate RVU's, it makes a point to remain in the good graces of those scheduling appointments - that they are sending patients your way. Your excellent care will beget more patients by word of mouth - your patients will refer relatives and co-workers to your care. I am considering volunteering to represent my practice at community health fairs at malls and community parks to get visibility (and I'm not on an RVU compensation plan). Its a shame that some of us will have to "prove our value", but maybe that's the wave of the future. Wouldn't it be interesting if those who switch to an RVU system ended up making more money than by a traditional compensation schedule? (it seems like we are assuming that you will make LESS money by this system) Linda Woodin, CRNP-BC Harrisburg Gastroenterology, Ltd. Harrisburg, PA alias, Linda, Redje and Blaze _____________________________________________________________ Free comparison of top car rental companies. Click Here! http://thirdpartyoffers.netzero.net/TGL2211/fc/Ioyw6ijmhQ3LYHdjpCAXfSA3J4DvG20OGr4LFPuxrG9Tn31ZrDZsui/ -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://www.legalisi.com/pipermail/pacnp_member/attachments/20080417/70f5a93c/attachment-0001.html From janis.bonat at jefferson.edu Thu Apr 17 08:48:39 2008 From: janis.bonat at jefferson.edu (Janis Bonat) Date: Thu Apr 17 08:50:37 2008 Subject: [Pacnp_member] compensation In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <001c01c8a089$5dda7220$a106a80a@tjumst.jefferson.edu> Sheila, I am curious. How did administration come up with an RVU for NP's that is 35% less than physicians? Even Medicare only "devalues" our effort by 15% (which is ridiculous in and of itself). You may want to ask them that question first. Then, you may want to look for a position that values your expertise. JB Janis Bonat, MSN, CRNP Thomas Jefferson University Department of Family and Community Medicine Philadelphia, PA 19107 janis.bonat@jefferson.edu The documents accompanying this transmission may contain confidential health or business information. This information is intended for the use of the individual or entity named above. If you received this information in error, please notify the sender immediately and arrange for the return or destruction of these documents. If the reader of this message is not the intended recipient or agent responsible for delivering the message to the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any dissemination, distribution or coping of this communication is strictly prohibited. -----Original Message----- From: pacnp_member-bounces@pacnp.org [mailto:pacnp_member-bounces@pacnp.org] On Behalf Of YOHN, SHEILAH Sent: Wednesday, April 16, 2008 5:38 PM To: PCNP list serve (E-mail) Subject: [Pacnp_member] compensation Dear Colleagues, My employer is "rolling out" a new compensation plan for all the providers. We will have a base salary which will be 70% of our current gross salary with monthly "bonuses" based on our previous 3 month avg productivity. My biggest concern is... the consultants and the administration have assigned a $20 value to the NPs and PAs RVU but the physicians get a $31 RVU. For those of you who may have plans similar to this, what is the $ value of the RVU that is assigned to the NPs? Also, is your base salary 70% of what your previous year's gross salary was? (if that makes sense). I need some help here. I feel very devalued with this $20 RVU and the PAs and NPs in our group are experienced, hardworking, and provide quality care. Alot of the doctors we work with are not!! Sheilah Yohn ********************************************************************** Sheilah Yohn, MSN, CRNP FHA Belleville 5 Hedgeapple Drive Belleville, PA 17004 Phone- (717) 667-9030 Fax- (717) 667-9165 Web Site: http://www.lewistownhospital.org The Mission of the Lewistown Healthcare Foundation (LHF) is to provide personal, high quality, economical health care that meets the needs of our communities. ********************************************************************** The information contained in the electronic message is privileged and confidential information intended for the use of the addressee listed above. If you are neither the intended recipient or the employee or agent responsible for delivering this information to the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any disclosure, copying, distribution, or taking of any action in reliance on the content of this telecopied information is strictly prohibited. If you receive this e-mail in error, please immediately notify us by telephone to arrange for return of the original document. _______________________________________________ Pacnp_member mailing list Pacnp_member@pacnp.org http://www.pacnp.org/mailman/listinfo/pacnp_member From MMcGee at dh.org Thu Apr 17 11:09:35 2008 From: MMcGee at dh.org (McGee, Michael) Date: Thu Apr 17 11:11:33 2008 Subject: [Pacnp_member] RE: Pacnp_member Digest, Vol 23, Issue 11/COMPENSATION References: <20080417112317.66906A1BB40A@legalisi.com> Message-ID: <38A56C4F4630D348A50B37204092708740738B@dhmail.dhorg.org> Sheilah, I have worked in a similar situation BUT in a Fast Track/Emergency Dept. Our salary was not cut (we were paid hourly, which to me is much better-my time is valuable) and the formula for RVUs was very complicated and less than the physicians. My concerns w/ what you explained would be to make sure the physicians are taking the same cut in base salary & doing the math to make sure your new salary w/ the RVU bonus plan will be the same or possibly more. This may take months to get an accurate picture. The basics also need to be investigated-finding out how much money you bring into the practice compared to the physicians. This can be difficult to obtain sometimes. My gut feeling (if you like the practice, patients and colleagues) would be to try it for 3-6 months before making a final decision. I think as NPs/PAs we are always in the lesser role (practice and salary) which can prompt a feeling of being devalued. It has taken me 10+ years in my current practice to obtain a very similar compensation package to my physician colleagues, and our (NP/PA) productivity is more than almost half my colleagues. Good luck. Michael T McGee, CRNP Medical Coordinator of Minor Acute Care Unit-MACU Doylestown Emergency Dept Doylestown, PA 18901 215-345-2145 ________________________________ From: pacnp_member-bounces@pacnp.org on behalf of pacnp_member-request@pacnp.org Sent: Thu 4/17/2008 7:23 AM To: pacnp_member@pacnp.org Subject: Pacnp_member Digest, Vol 23, Issue 11 Send Pacnp_member mailing list submissions to pacnp_member@pacnp.org To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit http://www.pacnp.org/mailman/listinfo/pacnp_member or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to pacnp_member-request@pacnp.org You can reach the person managing the list at pacnp_member-owner@pacnp.org When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific than "Re: Contents of Pacnp_member digest..." Today's Topics: 1. compensation (YOHN, SHEILAH) 2. Re: compensation (Lori Trauntvein) 3. question (Donna Melvin) 4. RE: [nursing] Re: [Pacnp_member] compensation (Jessica H. Tweedy, CRNP) 5. Re: [nursing] Re: [Pacnp_member] compensation (Lori Trauntvein) 6. Re: Nursing compensation (lmwcrnp@netzero.net) ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Message: 1 Date: Wed, 16 Apr 2008 17:37:30 -0400 From: "YOHN, SHEILAH" Subject: [Pacnp_member] compensation To: "PCNP list serve (E-mail)" Message-ID: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Dear Colleagues, My employer is "rolling out" a new compensation plan for all the providers. We will have a base salary which will be 70% of our current gross salary with monthly "bonuses" based on our previous 3 month avg productivity. My biggest concern is... the consultants and the administration have assigned a $20 value to the NPs and PAs RVU but the physicians get a $31 RVU. For those of you who may have plans similar to this, what is the $ value of the RVU that is assigned to the NPs? Also, is your base salary 70% of what your previous year's gross salary was? (if that makes sense). I need some help here. I feel very devalued with this $20 RVU and the PAs and NPs in our group are experienced, hardworking, and provide quality care. Alot of the doctors we work with are not!! Sheilah Yohn ********************************************************************** Sheilah Yohn, MSN, CRNP FHA Belleville 5 Hedgeapple Drive Belleville, PA 17004 Phone- (717) 667-9030 Fax- (717) 667-9165 Web Site: http://www.lewistownhospital.org The Mission of the Lewistown Healthcare Foundation (LHF) is to provide personal, high quality, economical health care that meets the needs of our communities. ********************************************************************** The information contained in the electronic message is privileged and confidential information intended for the use of the addressee listed above. If you are neither the intended recipient or the employee or agent responsible for delivering this information to the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any disclosure, copying, distribution, or taking of any action in reliance on the content of this telecopied information is strictly prohibited. If you receive this e-mail in error, please immediately notify us by telephone to arrange for return of the original document. ------------------------------ Message: 2 Date: Wed, 16 Apr 2008 21:02:02 -0400 From: "Lori Trauntvein" Subject: Re: [Pacnp_member] compensation To: "YOHN, SHEILAH" , "PCNP list serve (E-mail)" Message-ID: Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=original I have worked in a similar situation, with $20/RVU as well. Will your employer provide you with a copy of your productivity report from the last 12 months? If you do the math, will you be making a satisfactory salary (less or more than before)? I would use that to gauge whether or not to feel devalued or not. I have the opinion that, while you are an experienced provider who provides quality care, there may be more responsibility (liability or otherwise) on the part of the physician, which may warrant a higher compensation (although I am not sure of your exact circumstances). You may want to take that into consideration while you are deciding if this is a job you want to stay with. Good luck. -------------------------------------------------- From: "YOHN, SHEILAH" Sent: Wednesday, April 16, 2008 5:37 PM To: "PCNP list serve (E-mail)" Subject: [Pacnp_member] compensation > Dear Colleagues, > > My employer is "rolling out" a new compensation plan for all the > providers. We will have a base salary which will be 70% of our current > gross salary with monthly "bonuses" based on our previous 3 month avg > productivity. My biggest concern is... the consultants and the > administration have assigned a $20 value to the NPs and PAs RVU but the > physicians get a $31 RVU. For those of you who may have plans similar to > this, what is the $ value of the RVU that is assigned to the NPs? Also, is > your base salary 70% of what your previous year's gross salary was? (if > that makes sense). I need some help here. I feel very devalued with this > $20 RVU and the PAs and NPs in our group are experienced, hardworking, and > provide quality care. Alot of the doctors we work with are not!! > > Sheilah Yohn > > ********************************************************************** > Sheilah Yohn, MSN, CRNP > FHA Belleville > 5 Hedgeapple Drive > Belleville, PA 17004 > Phone- (717) 667-9030 > Fax- (717) 667-9165 > Web Site: http://www.lewistownhospital.org > > The Mission of the Lewistown Healthcare Foundation (LHF) is to provide > personal, high quality, economical health care that meets the needs of our > communities. > ********************************************************************** > The information contained in the electronic message is privileged and > confidential information intended for the use of the addressee listed > above. If you are neither the intended recipient or the employee or agent > responsible for delivering this information to the intended recipient, you > are hereby notified that any disclosure, copying, distribution, or taking > of any action in reliance on the content of this telecopied information is > strictly prohibited. If you receive this e-mail in error, please > immediately notify us by telephone to arrange for return of the original > document. > > > > _______________________________________________ > Pacnp_member mailing list > Pacnp_member@pacnp.org > http://www.pacnp.org/mailman/listinfo/pacnp_member > ------------------------------ Message: 3 Date: Wed, 16 Apr 2008 18:06:12 -0700 (PDT) From: Donna Melvin Subject: [Pacnp_member] question To: member listserv Message-ID: <515063.78149.qm@web62503.mail.re1.yahoo.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Hello everyone, Does anyone know if an NP moonlights as an RN preforming RN duties what level of malpractice he/she should carry? I'm thinking it should be at the highest level of education regardless. Can anyone speak to this? Also if preforning an RN role how would you sign your notes? Thanks Donna --------------------------------- Be a better friend, newshound, and know-it-all with Yahoo! Mobile. Try it now. -------------- next par