From pa.cnp at verizon.net Tue Sep 2 14:12:48 2008 From: pa.cnp at verizon.net (pacnp) Date: Wed Sep 3 13:52:03 2008 Subject: [Pacnp_member] FW: AANP Petition to End the Use of Physician-Biased Language in DTC Advertising Message-ID: <000b01c90d27$81c5cf80$0201a8c0@Margie> Dear NP Colleague: The American Academy of Nurse Practitioners (AANP) continues to work with the pharmaceutical and medical device industry to encourage provider-neutral language in all direct-to-consumer (DTC) ads. Last week, we invited you to participate in a petition created to further demonstrate the importance of this issue to the NP discipline. If you have not already signed the petition, please take a few minutes to read and sign the petition located here . Feel free to forward this message to your NP colleagues, as well as others you believe will support this initiative. At this time, we have approximately 15,000 petitioners. We will post details on the progress of the petition on our Web site (www.aanp.org) over the next few weeks. Thank you for taking the time to support this important issue. Sincerely, Diana "Dee" Swanson, MSN, NP-C, FAANP Judith Dempster, DNSc, FNP, FAANP AANP President AANP Executive Director Update Profile / Unsubscribe -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://www.legalisi.com/pipermail/pacnp_member/attachments/20080902/26f90e5b/attachment-0001.html From cdscrnp at yahoo.com Tue Sep 2 20:24:17 2008 From: cdscrnp at yahoo.com (Cindy Schmeltz) Date: Wed Sep 3 13:52:05 2008 Subject: [Pacnp_member] Conference Update Message-ID: <814518.51054.qm@web58111.mail.re3.yahoo.com> This announcement is to notify all that the on-line conference registration for the PCNP conference is now available. Log on to the website for more information & to initiate the registration process. Thanks to everyone for getting this running in a timely manner! Hope to see you at the conference! ? Cindy Schmeltz DNP, FNP-C, CRNP -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://www.legalisi.com/pipermail/pacnp_member/attachments/20080902/ee832476/attachment.html From pa.cnp at verizon.net Wed Sep 3 12:21:00 2008 From: pa.cnp at verizon.net (pacnp) Date: Wed Sep 3 13:52:08 2008 Subject: [Pacnp_member] Job Opportunity - State College Message-ID: <001501c90de1$1119b570$0201a8c0@Margie> Mount Nittany Medical Center is located in State College, PA, home of the main campus of the Pennsylvania State University. We are accepting resumes from Certified Registered Nurse Practitioners interested in a full time opportunity in our Pain Management Clinic. Duties include: pain management assessment; interpretation and integration of data to determine appropriate and therapeutic procedures as needed; prescribing medications and administering injections within scope of care; providing education to physicians, nurses, patients, and private offices; verbal and written correspondence with referring physicians; authorizing prescription refills; communicating test results; and telephone consultation with patients. Minimum qualifications include: graduate of an approved nurse practitioner program and current Penna. CRNP Certification. We provide a competitive compensation package and comprehensive benefit program. To receive consideration, please submit resume and salary history to: Mount Nittany Medical Center Human Resources Department Attention: Employment Manager Fax: 814-231-7099 E-mail: hr@mountnittany.org Equal Opportunity Employer -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://www.legalisi.com/pipermail/pacnp_member/attachments/20080903/1c117325/attachment.html From SSchrand at pacnp.org Thu Sep 11 10:09:38 2008 From: SSchrand at pacnp.org (Susan Schrand) Date: Tue Sep 16 20:53:27 2008 Subject: [Pacnp_member] CRNP Regulations: Update Message-ID: <002501c91418$079ab5c0$16d02140$@org> Hello, everyone! What a great way to kick off the fall season.the Eagles won their first game and as of today our state has officially gone smoke free!! I wanted to share this information with you about the CRNP regulations. I realize some of you are wondering what is going on. Here is an email I sent to one of our Regional Groups to update everyone on where things are at. Please share this with your groups and colleagues to let them know this is still top priority for the Coalition. This initiative is vital to our profession and our patients. I can't stress how important this is that we all participate in the process, even if somone is not individually affected, we must support our NP colleagues in other areas of practice (i.e.-Hospice/Palliative care, Trauma, Acute care/ER, Pediatrics, Oncology, Geriatrics, Chronic Pain Management). The big ticket items we are fighting to change are increasing our ability to prescribe Schedule II drugs from a supply of 72 hours to 30 days, and Schedule III-IV from a 30 day supply to 90 days (for mail order and cost savings to patients) Please feel free to read this message out to your group and have them SPREAD THE WORD!! We are still very much in need of a strong letter writing campaign. The attorney PCNP has retained to help us get through this transition with success could not stress that enough. Medicine (Pa Medical Society) has directly expressed to our leadership that they are opposed to the proposed changes and plan to fight this to maintain status quo. Where are the draft regulations now? The CRNP draft regulations are currently in the Office of the Attorney General. They have been "tolled" or 'stalled' for analysis. Morgan Plant, the executive officers from PCNP, and I are anxiously waiting for them to begin moving again so they will become 'proposed' and we can let everyone know when to start mailing letters. Once they become 'Proposed Regulation' , we will need letters of support to be sent within 30 days. PCNP will post guidelines on their website to help you with your letters. Our attorney discourages "stock" letters or "templates" as they do not carry as much impact as personal letters written with personal experiences. When will that begin? Sadly, we still don't know! It has been really frustrating waiting, but the best I could recommend for you and your members is to start writing the letters now and have them ready to go into the mail when we notify you that it's time. These issues are not new, so please don't wait until it's too late. Who should these letters come from? CRNP, RN's, patients and their families, healthcare colleagues, our Physician collaborators who support our profession!! --anyone who works with us and sees the value that our profession brings to our communities and increases access to care for Pennsylvanians. If you work in an office or healthcare system, I would encourage you to use official letterhead for the correspondence you and your colleagues send in. What should be in the letters? We have been advised to relate our patient's experience with access to care issues to help support the changes we are trying to get in place, rather than saying, "it is an inconvenience for me professionally". For example, the limited ability to write for schedule IIs and how this creates a financial disincentive for our patients because they are then paying multiple co-pays for prescriptions. Or, needing our patients to see a physician (who doesn't follow their care) to receive the necessary and best treatment of thier chronic pain, ADD, etc. when we are fully qualified and educated to handle these patient situations! How will we know when we should mail our letters? Please stress all of your members to sign up for our list serve so they will receive communication as soon as we get it. They just need to go to our website (www.pacnp.org) and click on "List Serve Sign Up" and follow the directions. As a Regional Group leader, we ask you have the ability to call your members or create a phone tree to reach out to those who may not have access to a computer. Who do I send my letter to when the time comes? All letters go through directly to the Pa State Board of Nursing. They forward onto the Independent Regulatory Review Committee (IRRC) for review. Please mail all letters to: Ann Steffanic, Board Administrator Pennsylvania State Board of Nursing Bureau of Professional and Occupational Affairs P.O. Box 2649 Harrisburg, PA 17105-2649 Thanks again for all the support! Don't hesitate to contact me if you have any other questions. Sue Susan M. Schrand, MSN, CRNP Executive Director Pennsylvania Coalition of Nurse Practitioners sschrand@pacnp.org -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://www.legalisi.com/pipermail/pacnp_member/attachments/20080911/ca31b33e/attachment-0001.html From SSchrand at pacnp.org Thu Sep 11 10:14:05 2008 From: SSchrand at pacnp.org (Susan Schrand) Date: Tue Sep 16 20:53:28 2008 Subject: [Pacnp_member] Cover Smoking Cessation Petition Message-ID: <003601c91418$a65c7ea0$f3157be0$@org> Please read below and consider signing this petition re: smoking cessation support for our patients. It is being sponsored by the American Lung Association. Thanks, Sue Schrand From: Deb Brown [mailto:dbrown@lunginfo.org] Sent: Tuesday, September 09, 2008 6:15 AM To: Deb Brown Subject: Cover Smoking Cessation Petition As health care professionals, you know that tobacco use remains this country?s leading preventable cause of death. Join the American Lung Association of the Mid-Atlantic in support of smoking cessation treatment coverage. Please sign the petition at www.coversmokingcessation.com to help get comprehensive smoking cessation coverage, including counseling and all FDA-approved medications, for your patients. Signing this petition enables you to effectively communicate your support of smoking cessation treatment coverage directly to the key decision makers in state government who have the ability to make an impact on health care insurance coverage in this state ? including the Pennsylvania Insurance Commissioner and Secretary of Health. All health care providers are invited to sign this petition by October 15, 2008. Nearly ? of all Pennsylvanians?2.2 million people?smoke. The remaining population is left to suffer from the harmful effects of secondhand smoke ... including 850,000 children in Pennsylvania who are directly affected by it each year. Health care providers in Pennsylvania see the realities of smoking every day. From elderly smokers with coronary heart disease to young fathers with lung cancer due to secondhand smoke exposure ? providers need to have autonomy and freedom when it comes to treating patients. Your voice, and the voices of other health care providers in Pennsylvania, makes a powerful impact not only on helping your patients to quit smoking, but also on helping them to access critical cessation treatments. Deborah P. Brown American Lung Association of the Mid-Atlantic Vice President, Community Outreach and Advocacy Serving the Communities of Delaware, New Jersey, Pennsylvania and West Virginia 3001 Old Gettysburg Road Camp Hill, PA 17011 P 717-541-5864 or 302.655.7258 Cell 610-563-6992 dbrown@lunginfo.org Improving Life, One Breath at a Time -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://www.legalisi.com/pipermail/pacnp_member/attachments/20080911/d440c03d/attachment.html From SSchrand at pacnp.org Sun Sep 14 21:29:14 2008 From: SSchrand at pacnp.org (Susan Schrand) Date: Tue Sep 16 20:53:29 2008 Subject: [Pacnp_member] Chronic Pain Management Message-ID: <002101c916d2$76df03c0$649d0b40$@org> Are any NPs on this list serve practicing in anesthesia or chronic pain clinics? If so, PCNP has been approached to participate in the Pennsylvania Chronic Pain Coalition, and I would like to have CRNP representation on this, especially given that we are trying to gain ground on our schedule II prescribing in regulations. Please contact me off-line for more information. sschrand@pacnp.org Thanks, Sue Susan M. Schrand, MSN, CRNP Executive Director Pennsylvania Coalition of Nurse Practitioners P.O. Box 545 Mechanicsburg, PA 17055 Ph/Fax (717) 766-4458 sschrand@pacnp.org www.pacnp.org -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://www.legalisi.com/pipermail/pacnp_member/attachments/20080914/ff28797d/attachment.html From SSchrand at pacnp.org Sun Sep 14 21:43:20 2008 From: SSchrand at pacnp.org (Susan Schrand) Date: Tue Sep 16 20:53:31 2008 Subject: [Pacnp_member] SB 219 - School Teacher Physical bill Message-ID: <002601c916d4$6f52b960$4df82c20$@org> We need some calls/letters put out to your State House Members to ask their support to move this bill! Currently, these forms have physician-only language, so NPs are not allowed to sign off on physical exams done to clear these candidates for employment. This is ridiculous and a burden to our patients, and only exists due to antiquated language in statute. This is an issue that gets brought to my attention frequently, so here is our chance to get this changed! I can't do it without your help and energy. Legislators like to hear from their own constituents before they will act. Morgan Plant (PCNP Lobbyist) has notified me that she spoke with Chris Wakeley, the Executive Director of the House Education committee. They will move the school teacher physical bill either next week or the week after. Not anticipating changes to the bill, so if it passes the House it goes straight to the Governor. Please contact your representative today and ask for their help! Here is the link to find out who your legislator is: http://www.legis.state.pa.us/cfdocs/legis/home/find.cfm Thank you for supporting the Coalition! Sue Susan M. Schrand, MSN, CRNP Executive Director Pennsylvania Coalition of Nurse Practitioners P.O. Box 545 Mechanicsburg, PA 17055 Ph/Fax (717) 766-4458 sschrand@pacnp.org www.pacnp.org -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://www.legalisi.com/pipermail/pacnp_member/attachments/20080914/790d8eca/attachment.html From crnp2001 at westgateoptical.com Wed Sep 17 06:32:46 2008 From: crnp2001 at westgateoptical.com (Kimberly Spering) Date: Wed Sep 17 08:40:53 2008 Subject: [Pacnp_member] Re: [NP-Clinical] HR Consultant paying NPs for short survey References: Message-ID: Members of NP Clinical and the PA NP listserv: Please note Barbara Phillips' original email below my response. I spoke with Tom Hubric on Monday. He was very nice and really interested in what NPs have to say about this...as well as the other factors that restrict our practice. (That part was off-topic in our discussion...I probably spoke with him for 30 minutes total.) My recent job-hunting experiences played a role in our discussion as well. The hospital he is surveying for is the Reading Hospital and Medical Center. He asked me if I knew of anyone else that would be interested in responding to please call him at the phone number listed below. Kim Spering, NP ----- Original Message ----- From: Barbara C. Phillips To: 'NP Info' ; 'NP Clinical' Sent: Wednesday, September 10, 2008 11:57 PM Subject: [NP-Clinical] HR Consultant paying NPs for short survey Colleagues, I spoke with a gentleman this morning who is a HR Consultant hired by a hospital in PA to do a survey. This hospital is having a hard time finding NPs to work in an Urgent Care/Retail Clinic type of environment. His task is to survey Nurse Practitioners - he is not concerned so much if you are employed or self employed. He is paying $50.00 to each NP who answers his questions - takes 5-10 minutes. He needs 25 NPs - I'm not sure how many have responded as of yet. If you are interested, you can contact him in one of two ways: Tom Hubric, Reading-Berks HR Management Phone: 610-670-7878 (Eastern) Email: Tom@readingberkshrm.com Thanks, Barbara Barbara C. Phillips, NP www.NPBusiness.ORG www.NPInterviews.com www.NPBusinessOwner.com -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://www.legalisi.com/pipermail/pacnp_member/attachments/20080917/b5acf7b8/attachment-0001.html From jkpol at hotmail.com Wed Sep 3 13:53:48 2008 From: jkpol at hotmail.com (julie poliafico) Date: Wed Sep 17 08:41:23 2008 Subject: [Pacnp_member] pronouncing death In-Reply-To: <966700.9301.qm@web36706.mail.mud.yahoo.com> References: <966700.9301.qm@web36706.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Message-ID: Hi All, Can you help me with this question as soon as possible? Can a nurse practitioner in the state of Pennsylvania pronounce death? Does the law differ based on whether or not the deceased is in a hospital setting, nursing home or home setting? Do any of you know where I can find the answer to this question to share with my hospital administrators?? Thanks, Julie Poliafico, CRNP From lorimpcrnp at yahoo.com Fri Sep 5 08:21:49 2008 From: lorimpcrnp at yahoo.com (Lori Plank) Date: Wed Sep 17 08:42:06 2008 Subject: [Pacnp_member] National NP week--a time to celebrate NPs and educate the public Message-ID: <622084.32689.qm@web63402.mail.re1.yahoo.com> Hope that all members will take advantage of this free resource to celebrate and promote NPs at your practice site, in educational programs, and in the media. ? Lori Martin-Plank, CRNP Secy, PCNP ? National NP Week Resource Guide available National NP Week 2008 will be celebrated Nov. 9 to 15. AANP has developed the NP Week Resource Guide to help members plan and execute a successful week building awareness of the NP by educating the general public about the value and benefits of having an NP as their health care provider. Review the guide and plan now to make NP Week 2008 an event to remember! If you have any question, please contact membership@aanp.org. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://www.legalisi.com/pipermail/pacnp_member/attachments/20080905/eeda0ce5/attachment.html From lorimpcrnp at yahoo.com Fri Sep 5 15:28:44 2008 From: lorimpcrnp at yahoo.com (Lori Plank) Date: Wed Sep 17 08:42:36 2008 Subject: [Pacnp_member] Fwd: [JAN] FW: CMS Caregivers Initiative Email Invite Message-ID: <597315.12207.qm@web63408.mail.re1.yahoo.com> Here is some useful information for NPs who work with older adults and their families. Lori Martin-Plank, CRNP PCNP Secy From: Feierman, Debbie S. (CMS/CFMHPO) [mailto:Debbie.Feierman@cms.hhs.gov] Sent: Friday, September 05, 2008 2:42 PM To: Feierman, Debbie S. (CMS/CFMHPO) Subject: FW: CMS Caregivers Initiative Email Invite ? Below you will find your invitation to the e-launch of the CMS Caregiver Initiative: Ask Medicare.??This launch will be a webcast on September 18th at 12:00 p.m. ET.? We're asking you to do three things: Click on the link in the invitation below?and register for the e-launch.? You can watch from your computer. Forward the invitation (don't cut/paste) to your partners and invite them to also register, and to likewise push out the invitation. Consider submitting a question to be answered during the launch, and encourage your partners and their constituents to do so as well. ? Thanks to everyone - we're building a community of caring, and each of you are part of the conversation. ? ? View this email in your browser ? Connecting Caregivers to Medicare Resources Thursday, September 18, 2008 12:00 ? 1:00 pm ET Live Webcast* Learn about new online resources for caregivers Post questions to CMS Acting Administrator Kerry Weems and a panel of experts online Sign up for the Ask Medicare bi?monthly e?newsletter Broadcast from The Newseum in Washington , DC *This event is only accessible via the Webcast ? ? Once you RSVP, you will receive details for accessing the Webcast. Please share the news about this exciting event by sending this link to colleagues and friends. ? Please contact us at caregiver@cms.hhs.gov ?_______________________________________________ -------------- next part -------------- Skipped content of type multipart/related From pa.cnp at verizon.net Thu Sep 4 07:15:41 2008 From: pa.cnp at verizon.net (pacnp) Date: Wed Sep 17 08:47:38 2008 Subject: [Pacnp_member] FW: Gerontological NP Certification-Alternate Criteria Message-ID: <001501c90e7f$91255c30$0201a8c0@Margie> -----Original Message----- From: kma100@pitt.edu [mailto:kma100@pitt.edu] Sent: Wednesday, September 03, 2008 4:56 PM To: pcnp@pacnp.org Subject: Gerontological NP Certification-Alternate Criteria The following page on the American Nurses Credentialing Center - ANCC website was referred to you by Kathy Magdic http://www.nursecredentialing.org/NurseSpecialties/GerontologicalNP.aspx An Acute Care Nurse Practitioner, Adult Nurse Practitioner, or Family Nurse Practitioner holding an active certification and is either licensed or authorized to practice as a nurse practitioner by a state or territory is a candidate for the Gerontological Nurse Practitioner Alternate Eligibility Recognition Examination. Click on the link for details on how to apply. Thanks bunches Thank you for visiting the American Nurses Credentialing Center - ANCC website! -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://www.legalisi.com/pipermail/pacnp_member/attachments/20080904/be41a7fb/attachment.html From cdscrnp at yahoo.com Wed Sep 17 10:29:27 2008 From: cdscrnp at yahoo.com (Cindy Schmeltz) Date: Wed Sep 17 10:32:42 2008 Subject: [Pacnp_member] Job posting Message-ID: <431330.30463.qm@web58108.mail.re3.yahoo.com> Here is another job from list serve ? Bariatric Nurse Practitioner - 3+ years general medical/surgical nursing experience ? Abington Memorial Hospital is a 570-bed community teaching hospital and comprehensive regional health center with a level II trauma center located in the Philadelphia suburbs. ? Some other interesting facts about us: * Recognized as one of the "Best Places to Work in PA," 2007 by Team Pennsylvania Foundation, the state Department of Community and Economic Development, the Pennsylvania Chamber of Business and Industry, and the Central Business Journal * One of the busiest hospitals in the Delaware Valley * As the first acute care hospital in the Philadelphia area to achieve Magnet status, we have now earned redesignation! * Largest maternity hospital in the Delaware Valley with more than 4,800 births per year * Over 76,000 people are treated annually in our emergency trauma center ? * More than 5,000 employees, including over 2,000 nurses * Abington Memorial Hospital also offers specialty certifications and tuition reimbursement * Excellent benefits, including medical, dental, sick time, vacation and holiday pay, tuition assistance, discount parking, direct deposit, credit union and more! * On-site childcare available ? Abington Memorial Hospital is an Equal Opportunity Employer. ? Under the direction of the Medical Director of the Bariatric Program, Manager and Administrative Director of Surgery, you will work in a collaborative role to provide a comprehensive plan of care for patients considering surgical weight-loss options. This position utilizes the nursing process, integrating medical protocols, orders and consultation to provide comprehensive health care. ? Requirements: *???? 3-5 years' general medical/surgical nursing experience *???? Master's degree in Nursing and certificate from a Nurse Practitioner program *???? Current licensure as CRNP in the Commonwealth of Pennsylvania *???? Bariatric experience strongly preferred *???? Exceptional communication skills ? Apply online: www.amh.org?? ? -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://www.legalisi.com/pipermail/pacnp_member/attachments/20080917/2100be40/attachment.html From crnp2001 at westgateoptical.com Wed Sep 17 19:59:04 2008 From: crnp2001 at westgateoptical.com (Kimberly Spering) Date: Thu Sep 18 17:43:54 2008 Subject: [Pacnp_member] Re: [NP-Clinical] HR Consultant paying NPs for shortsurvey References: Message-ID: Just an update on the NP survey... I got a voicemail from Tom Hubric today, again thanking me for calling...and for the seemingly unending calls that came in today from our PA NP colleagues. He kindly asked me to pass on that he now has (more than) enough people to finish his survey. So please, no more calls or emails! He had already turned down 19 people by 3 PM this afternoon. :) Thanks for such a wonderful response! He was impressed by all of us. Kim Spering ----- Original Message ----- From: Kimberly Spering To: NP Clinical Cc: pacnp_member@pacnp.org Sent: Wednesday, September 17, 2008 6:32 AM Subject: [Pacnp_member] Re: [NP-Clinical] HR Consultant paying NPs for shortsurvey Members of NP Clinical and the PA NP listserv: Please note Barbara Phillips' original email below my response. I spoke with Tom Hubric on Monday. He was very nice and really interested in what NPs have to say about this...as well as the other factors that restrict our practice. (That part was off-topic in our discussion...I probably spoke with him for 30 minutes total.) My recent job-hunting experiences played a role in our discussion as well. The hospital he is surveying for is the Reading Hospital and Medical Center. He asked me if I knew of anyone else that would be interested in responding to please call him at the phone number listed below. Kim Spering, NP ----- Original Message ----- From: Barbara C. Phillips To: 'NP Info' ; 'NP Clinical' Sent: Wednesday, September 10, 2008 11:57 PM Subject: [NP-Clinical] HR Consultant paying NPs for short survey Colleagues, I spoke with a gentleman this morning who is a HR Consultant hired by a hospital in PA to do a survey. This hospital is having a hard time finding NPs to work in an Urgent Care/Retail Clinic type of environment. His task is to survey Nurse Practitioners - he is not concerned so much if you are employed or self employed. He is paying $50.00 to each NP who answers his questions - takes 5-10 minutes. He needs 25 NPs - I'm not sure how many have responded as of yet. If you are interested, you can contact him in one of two ways: Tom Hubric, Reading-Berks HR Management Phone: 610-670-7878 (Eastern) Email: Tom@readingberkshrm.com Thanks, Barbara Barbara C. Phillips, NP www.NPBusiness.ORG www.NPInterviews.com www.NPBusinessOwner.com -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://www.legalisi.com/pipermail/pacnp_member/attachments/20080917/1d985932/attachment.html From heathernp1 at verizon.net Wed Sep 17 18:26:42 2008 From: heathernp1 at verizon.net (heathernp1@verizon.net) Date: Thu Sep 18 17:44:39 2008 Subject: [Pacnp_member] Physical forms Message-ID: <5451703.71981221690402540.JavaMail.root@vms064.mailsrvcs.net> An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://www.legalisi.com/pipermail/pacnp_member/attachments/20080917/c98ac8e2/attachment-0001.html From kma100 at pitt.edu Wed Sep 17 16:29:24 2008 From: kma100 at pitt.edu (Magdic, Kathy S) Date: Thu Sep 18 17:45:23 2008 Subject: [Pacnp_member] pronouncing death In-Reply-To: References: <966700.9301.qm@web36706.mail.mud.yahoo.com>, Message-ID: <497E84B4AC02ED48B2D7C513D0EF1115BE094D34C1@PITT-EXCH-06.univ.pitt.edu> The answer is "Yes". NPs cannot verify cause of death, but can pronounce death, I have the source in my office which I will get tomorrow. Kathy Magdic, MSN, ACNP- BC, FAANP Acute Care Nurse Practitioner Program University of Pittsburgh 412-624-9629 ________________________________________ From: pacnp_member-bounces@pacnp.org [pacnp_member-bounces@pacnp.org] On Behalf Of julie poliafico [jkpol@hotmail.com] Sent: Wednesday, September 03, 2008 1:53 PM To: pacnp Subject: [Pacnp_member] pronouncing death Hi All, Can you help me with this question as soon as possible? Can a nurse practitioner in the state of Pennsylvania pronounce death? Does the law differ based on whether or not the deceased is in a hospital setting, nursing home or home setting? Do any of you know where I can find the answer to this question to share with my hospital administrators?? Thanks, Julie Poliafico, CRNP _______________________________________________ Pacnp_member mailing list Pacnp_member@pacnp.org http://www.pacnp.org/mailman/listinfo/pacnp_member From michelle.np at cox.net Wed Sep 17 20:05:01 2008 From: michelle.np at cox.net (Michelle Taylor) Date: Thu Sep 18 17:46:02 2008 Subject: [Pacnp_member] pronouncing death References: <966700.9301.qm@web36706.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <10600C28034146CB83CA84BB991DE681@D1L95L51> Unless something has changed since I left PA in 2006: Pronouncing death, if death was expected and pt under care of physician, is within the scope of every RN in PA since 1991. Nothing special for NP. NP cannot certify cause of death, just pronounce dead as an RN. Here's the bill that made this law: http://www2.legis.state.pa.us/WU01/LI/BI/BT/1991/0/HB0344P2796.pdf (Section 507 on page 4) Michelle Taylor ----- Original Message ----- From: julie poliafico To: pacnp Sent: Wednesday, September 03, 2008 12:53 PM Subject: [Pacnp_member] pronouncing death Hi All, Can you help me with this question as soon as possible? Can a nurse practitioner in the state of Pennsylvania pronounce death? Does the law differ based on whether or not the deceased is in a hospital setting, nursing home or home setting? Do any of you know where I can find the answer to this question to share with my hospital administrators?? Thanks, Julie Poliafico, CRNP _______________________________________________ Pacnp_member mailing list Pacnp_member@pacnp.org http://www.pacnp.org/mailman/listinfo/pacnp_member -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://www.legalisi.com/pipermail/pacnp_member/attachments/20080917/9545ce9f/attachment.html From pa.cnp at verizon.net Fri Sep 19 14:09:33 2008 From: pa.cnp at verizon.net (pacnp) Date: Fri Sep 19 14:13:58 2008 Subject: [Pacnp_member] Job Opportunity - Central Pennsylvania Message-ID: <001501c91a82$dee0e0c0$0201a8c0@Margie> PinnacleHealth System - Nurse Practitioner PinnacleHealth System, Central Pennsylvania's health care leader, is excited to be developing a new Palliative Care Team to help improve inpatient care for end-of-life issues, pain management, and symptom control. The team is looking for a full-time CRNP (or PA) with palliative care, geriatric, or pain management experience. The individual in this position will provide leadership along with a palliative care physician. PinnacleHealth is a 750-bed hospital system with various locations in and around Harrisburg, PA. As a charitable organization, our mission is to maintain and improve the health and quality of life for all the people of Central Pennsylvania. We are a Magnet facility and have been recognized as one of the "Best Places to Work in PA" for the past five consecutive years! EOE Come be a part of our growing team! We offer the following benefits: *Medical & Dental benefits *Vacation time & paid holidays *Retirement: 403(b) & RIA *Tuition reimbursement *Free parking *And more! View our recruitment video online at http://www.maddash.net/videos/pinnacle Apply online at www.pinnaclehealth.org/careers, email resumes to Kristine at kweakley@pinnaclehealth.org, fax 717-231-8635, or contact us at 1-866-231-9876. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://www.legalisi.com/pipermail/pacnp_member/attachments/20080919/f1091b82/attachment.html From pa.cnp at verizon.net Fri Sep 19 15:18:57 2008 From: pa.cnp at verizon.net (pacnp) Date: Fri Sep 19 15:22:47 2008 Subject: [Pacnp_member] Job Opportunity - Central PA Message-ID: <000501c91a8c$94949980$0201a8c0@Margie> CRNPs for Correctional Institutions Prison Health Services, Inc. (PHS) is seeking Full-time and Part-time Nurse Practitioners to provide services in State Correctional Institutions in Pennsylvania. PHS is the founder of the private managed correctional healthcare field. Since 1978, we have delivered value-driven healthcare to literally hundreds of jails, prisons and juvenile facilities across the United States. Correctional medicine is comprised primarily of internal medicine patients with a public service/community health service flavor. Care competencies include: asthma, hypertension, seizures, diabetes and infectious disease: including TB and HIV. Care provided is somewhat procedure oriented and will include lacerations and wound care, minor procedures and general infectious disease. We offer a safe and supportive work environment with competitive compensation and benefits that include: * Health, Dental, Life, and Vision Insurance * Paid Professional Liability Insurance * 401K Retirement Plan * Long & Short Term Disability Insurance * Holiday, Vacation, Sick Leave * Company Stock Purchase Plan * CME Reimbursement with Paid Time * Full-time status may qualify for HPSA-Loan Repayment at any of the designated sites E-mail resumes to: 187adm@asgr.com. Prison Health Services 872 Poplar Church Road Camp Hill, PA 17011 Phone: 717-761-2635 www.prisonhealth.com EOE/AA -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://www.legalisi.com/pipermail/pacnp_member/attachments/20080919/30bee7fc/attachment-0001.html From pa.cnp at verizon.net Tue Sep 23 10:52:25 2008 From: pa.cnp at verizon.net (pacnp) Date: Tue Sep 23 10:57:28 2008 Subject: [Pacnp_member] FW: hotel rooms for the conference Message-ID: <00d101c91d8c$012db750$0201a8c0@Margie> -----Original Message----- From: Lorella Thomas To: Sheilah Yohn ; banabug@aol.com; ? I have been told that people who are calling for a room on Thursday night for the conference are being told that the Penn Stater does not have any more rooms for that night. Unfortunately, this is true. Barb spoke with Susie Blauer from the Penn Stater. So far, the Penn Stater has given reservations to?about 85 persons for our conference for Thursday night. This is WAY more than the 50 rooms that we planned for.?The 50 room block was the number used by last year's conference. Barb is working with the Penn Stater to come up with some other options. I don't know what those options may be - maybe rooms at the Penn Stater, I don't know. I will keep you posted. I think that as people call and they are not able to get reservations, they assume that the Penn Stater made a mistake (I made this assumption). I had no idea that so many people would be coming on Thursday night...... Please spread the word that the response for rooms, especially for Thursday night has been overwelhming and we're trying to work something out. Thanks for your understanding. Lorella From SSchrand at pacnp.org Tue Sep 23 11:41:15 2008 From: SSchrand at pacnp.org (Susan Schrand) Date: Tue Sep 23 11:45:06 2008 Subject: [Pacnp_member] State Award of Excellence for NP / NP Advocate Message-ID: <04d301c91d92$d0e3a3a0$72aaeae0$@org> Dear Colleagues: Pennsylvania is in need of nominating a NP for our State Award of Excellence and someone for Advocate State Award for Excellence through the American Academy of Nurse Practitioner (AANP). The deadline is Monday, October 6th, 2008. I have attached the information below, including the link to submit your nomination on-line. This is a nice honor and great way to recognize those who work so hard to promote our profession, so if you would please consider submitting a nomination, I would appreciate it! Sincerely, Sue Susan M. Schrand, MSN, CRNP Pa State Representative for AANP Executive Director for Pennsylvania Coalition of Nurse Practitioners sschrand@pacnp.org www.pacnp.org Nominations are now open for the 2009 AANP State Award for Excellence. Please read the following information and frequently asked questions carefully. Nominations must be submitted electronically on the official 2009 State Award Nomination Form in a clear and concise manner to be considered for the award. Nomination form must be submitted electronically to AANP by October 6, 2008. Thank you in advance for taking the time to nominate deserving NPs and Advocates. Eligibility The NP State Award for Excellence is given annually to an NP who has demonstrated excellence in NP clinical practice. The Advocate State Award for Excellence is given annually to an individual who has made a significant contribution toward increasing awareness and acceptance of NPs. Examples of past recipients of this award have been physicians, legislators, educators, etc. NPs are also eligible for the advocate award for non-clinical practice initiatives related to leadership, precepting, policy, politics, research, education, or community affairs. If the situation warrants a tie, two awards may be given in one or both categories. Neither the person nominated nor the nominator has to be an AANP member. Timeline for 2009 State Award for Excellence October 6, 2008......Deadline for nominations to be received by AANP 2009 Conference....Winners honored at special State Awards Reception Winners receive the following from AANP * All winners receive a one-time waiver of AANP conference registration fee * Current AANP member winners receive a one-year extension on their membership, beginning at their renewal date * Non-AANP members who are award recipients are given a one-year complimentary membership . Winners receive a certificate from AANP and are recognized at the AANP national conference with a special State Awards Reception. States may recognize winners at venues throughout the year with honors/awards given at the discretion of the state rep. To begin the nomination process, click here to read the Frequently Asked Questions and then click here to complete the 2009 AANP State Award for Excellence Nomination Form. If you have any questions or need more information, please contact Beverly McLemore at (512) 442-4262, ext. 5233 or email stateawards@aanp.org Susan M. Schrand, MSN, CRNP Executive Director Pennsylvania Coalition of Nurse Practitioners P.O. Box 545 Mechanicsburg, PA 17055 Ph/Fax (717) 766-4458 sschrand@pacnp.org www.pacnp.org Susan M. Schrand, MSN, CRNP Executive Director Pennsylvania Coalition of Nurse Practitioners P.O. Box 545 Mechanicsburg, PA 17055 Ph/Fax (717) 766-4458 sschrand@pacnp.org www.pacnp.org -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://www.legalisi.com/pipermail/pacnp_member/attachments/20080923/429b61f7/attachment.html From SSchrand at pacnp.org Tue Sep 23 13:40:07 2008 From: SSchrand at pacnp.org (Susan Schrand) Date: Tue Sep 23 13:44:06 2008 Subject: [Pacnp_member] NP / RN Team provide health care education to uninsured in rural Pennsylvania! Message-ID: <053701c91da3$6ba91e50$42fb5af0$@org> Here is a positive news article about a CRNP involved in promoting health for Amish and Mennonite families in Lancaster County. CRNPs do good work! http://articles.lancasteronline.com/local/4/227695 Sue Susan M. Schrand, MSN, CRNP Executive Director Pennsylvania Coalition of Nurse Practitioners P.O. Box 545 Mechanicsburg, PA 17055 Ph/Fax (717) 766-4458 sschrand@pacnp.org www.pacnp.org -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://www.legalisi.com/pipermail/pacnp_member/attachments/20080923/7e8bec4b/attachment.html From pa.cnp at verizon.net Tue Sep 23 16:19:21 2008 From: pa.cnp at verizon.net (pacnp) Date: Tue Sep 23 16:25:24 2008 Subject: [Pacnp_member] Job Opportunity - Eastern PA Message-ID: <00ef01c91db9$aeac6a20$0201a8c0@Margie> NURSE MANAGER Clinical Excellence in Behavioral Health Horizon Health, the national leader in the mgmt. of inpatient psychiatric programs, seeks a dynamic Nurse Mgr for a 14-bed, geropsych unit at our client hospital, Holy Redeemer Hospital in Meadowbrook, PA. BSN or MSN, & min of 3-5 years Psych Charge Nurse, Assistant Nurse Mgr, or Nurse Mgr experience pref'd. Contact: Mark Blakeney, Horizon Health. V: 972-420-7473; Fax: 972-420-8233, or email: mark.blakeney@horizonhealth.com EOE. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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From: "Michelle Taylor" Subject: Re: [Pacnp_member] pronouncing death Date: Thu, 18 Sep 2008 21:42:59 +0000 Size: 698 Url: http://www.legalisi.com/pipermail/pacnp_member/attachments/20080921/d43e00be/attachment.mht From kriebel-gasparro-ann at CooperHealth.edu Thu Sep 18 22:29:26 2008 From: kriebel-gasparro-ann at CooperHealth.edu (Kriebel-Gasparro, Ann) Date: Tue Sep 23 17:37:27 2008 Subject: [Pacnp_member] Physical forms In-Reply-To: <5451703.71981221690402540.JavaMail.root@vms064.mailsrvcs.net> References: <5451703.71981221690402540.JavaMail.root@vms064.mailsrvcs.net> Message-ID: I would imagine it would not be legal if you are filling the form out, and signing your own name as if you performed the exam. If you are transcribing the information from the chart from the other NPs exam, and signing your name 'for - and list the other nps name, I think that is best. But more than that - why aren't the patients presenting the form during the exam? and why can't it wait until the other NP can fill it out? in our neurology dept, we had patients come up to our offices and demand forms be filled out - for disability, workers comp, driving, etc. the same day, and would wait in the office. I used to do these - but we now have a policy that when they drop a form off - we have 7-10 days to fill it out. within that time, the physician can be contacted to determine if the patient can either return to work, be on temporary or permanent disability, and so forth. Any forms that specify that a physician only must sign - I do not sign. I have the physician sign. There are forms that allow an NP to sign, and those I do sign. If the H&P and medical diagnosis is clearly documented in the chart - I will fill out forms, and sign my own name, if an APN is able to sign. However, I believe the form you are describing needs the NP who actually did the exam to fill out the form. Drivers license forms are an example, as are school exam forms. These should be done - and really should only be done - while the patient is present in the office, and by the person who did the actual exam. hope that helps somewhat , Ann Kriebel-Gasparro, MSN, APRN ________________________________ From: pacnp_member-bounces@pacnp.org [pacnp_member-bounces@pacnp.org] On Behalf Of heathernp1@verizon.net [heathernp1@verizon.net] Sent: Wednesday, September 17, 2008 6:26 PM To: pacnp_member@pacnp.org Subject: [Pacnp_member] Physical forms I work in a clinic where we perform a lot of physical exams. I have had patients return with a physical form requesting that I fill it out, though the physical was completed by another NP. I am unsure if this is even legal, since I did not perform the exam, so I have been asking people to return when the NP who did the physical is working. Has anyone else experienced this, and if so, how should it be handled? Is it okay to fill out a physical form when another practitioner did the physical? Thank you, Heather Guiliano CRNP **************************************************************** This email, including attachments, may include confidential and/or proprietary information, and may be used only by the person or entity to which it is addressed. If the reader of this email is not the intended recipient or his or her authorized agent, the reader is hereby notified that any dissemination, distribution, or copying of this email is prohibited. If you received this email in error, please notify the sender by replying to this message and delete this email immediately. From lmwcrnp at netzero.net Fri Sep 19 12:21:30 2008 From: lmwcrnp at netzero.net (lmwcrnp@netzero.net) Date: Tue Sep 23 17:37:42 2008 Subject: Fw: Re: [Pacnp_member] Physical forms Message-ID: <20080919.122130.24617.3@webmail21.dca.untd.com> Heather - I think you and your practice would benefit from a policy that indicates there is a 5 day (or whatever) turn-around time for forms. This way the form can be placed on the chart and the chart placed on the desk of the person who completed the physical so she/he can complete the form. The patient can be told - "we will have the Nurse Practitioner who did your physical - Mr. or Ms. NP - fill out the form within 5 days. We will call you when it is ready and you can pick it up. There is a $ 10 charge (or whatever) to complete the form". Who says the patient should be able to show up at the window with a form and you have to drop everything and fill in information that you did not do? As the old adage says "An inability to plan on your part does not constitute an emergency on my part". Many practices charge to complete a form since the provider is spending non-reimbursable time filling out forms. Of course, it will take a discussion with your practice and a policy established - you can't be the only one in our practice refusing to fill in a form there and now for a physical you didn''t do. Hope this helps. Linda Woodin, CRNP Harrisburg Gastroenterology, Ltd. Harrisburg, PA alias, Linda, Redje and Blaze Pack of Three Look twice - save a life - motorcycle safety and awareness ____________________________________________________________ Click to become a master chef, own a restaurant and make millions. http://thirdpartyoffers.netzero.net/TGL2231/fc/Ioyw6ijmPlSBE60RvRLgjWnLqfXyP5PjWlfwnB1nD7WJoFpSuqLZwy/ -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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From: "lmwcrnp@netzero.net" Subject: Fw: Re: [Pacnp_member] Physical forms Date: Tue, 23 Sep 2008 21:34:10 +0000 Size: 657 Url: http://www.legalisi.com/pipermail/pacnp_member/attachments/20080924/4d5653a5/attachment.mht From tsab at epix.net Tue Sep 23 18:11:35 2008 From: tsab at epix.net (sandra brill) Date: Wed Sep 24 22:21:19 2008 Subject: [Pacnp_member] Physical forms In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <006501c91dc9$582a29c0$01fea8c0@sandyc463ba856> In the practice where I work, the forms are filled out by the provider who preformed the physical if the physical was preformed in the last 12 months at no charge. There is a requested 72 hour time for completing the forms. -----Original Message----- From: pacnp_member-bounces@pacnp.org [mailto:pacnp_member-bounces@pacnp.org] On Behalf Of Kriebel-Gasparro, Ann Sent: Thursday, September 18, 2008 10:29 PM To: heathernp1@verizon.net; pacnp_member@pacnp.org Subject: RE: [Pacnp_member] Physical forms I would imagine it would not be legal if you are filling the form out, and signing your own name as if you performed the exam. If you are transcribing the information from the chart from the other NPs exam, and signing your name 'for - and list the other nps name, I think that is best. But more than that - why aren't the patients presenting the form during the exam? and why can't it wait until the other NP can fill it out? in our neurology dept, we had patients come up to our offices and demand forms be filled out - for disability, workers comp, driving, etc. the same day, and would wait in the office. I used to do these - but we now have a policy that when they drop a form off - we have 7-10 days to fill it out. within that time, the physician can be contacted to determine if the patient can either return to work, be on temporary or permanent disability, and so forth. Any forms that specify that a physician only must sign - I do not sign. I have the physician sign. There are forms that allow an NP to sign, and those I do sign. If the H&P and medical diagnosis is clearly documented in the chart - I will fill out forms, and sign my own name, if an APN is able to sign. However, I believe the form you are describing needs the NP who actually did the exam to fill out the form. Drivers license forms are an example, as are school exam forms. These should be done - and really should only be done - while the patient is present in the office, and by the person who did the actual exam. hope that helps somewhat , Ann Kriebel-Gasparro, MSN, APRN ________________________________ From: pacnp_member-bounces@pacnp.org [pacnp_member-bounces@pacnp.org] On Behalf Of heathernp1@verizon.net [heathernp1@verizon.net] Sent: Wednesday, September 17, 2008 6:26 PM To: pacnp_member@pacnp.org Subject: [Pacnp_member] Physical forms I work in a clinic where we perform a lot of physical exams. I have had patients return with a physical form requesting that I fill it out, though the physical was completed by another NP. I am unsure if this is even legal, since I did not perform the exam, so I have been asking people to return when the NP who did the physical is working. Has anyone else experienced this, and if so, how should it be handled? Is it okay to fill out a physical form when another practitioner did the physical? Thank you, Heather Guiliano CRNP **************************************************************** This email, including attachments, may include confidential and/or proprietary information, and may be used only by the person or entity to which it is addressed. If the reader of this email is not the intended recipient or his or her authorized agent, the reader is hereby notified that any dissemination, distribution, or copying of this email is prohibited. If you received this email in error, please notify the sender by replying to this message and delete this email immediately. _______________________________________________ Pacnp_member mailing list Pacnp_member@pacnp.org http://www.pacnp.org/mailman/listinfo/pacnp_member From pa.cnp at verizon.net Fri Sep 26 13:16:36 2008 From: pa.cnp at verizon.net (pacnp) Date: Fri Sep 26 13:20:55 2008 Subject: [Pacnp_member] Job Opportunity - Statewide Message-ID: <001101c91ffb$a4d86ff0$0201a8c0@Margie> Skipped content of type multipart/alternative-------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://www.legalisi.com/pipermail/pacnp_member/attachments/20080926/99b1cede/attachment-0001.html From kriebel-gasparro-ann at CooperHealth.edu Thu Sep 25 09:16:06 2008 From: kriebel-gasparro-ann at CooperHealth.edu (Kriebel-Gasparro, Ann) Date: Sat Sep 27 12:28:02 2008 Subject: Fw: Re: [Pacnp_member] Physical forms In-Reply-To: <092420081416.2824.48DA4BAB0001C5C200000B082207000953C0C8C90E9D0103@comcast.net> References: <092420081416.2824.48DA4BAB0001C5C200000B082207000953C0C8C90E9D0103@comcast.net> Message-ID: Great points. In our neurology practice - we do not typically fill out FMLA forms that are a medical emergency. However - we are inundated with forms for workman's comp, disability, and driver's forms (especially for epilepsy patients). Because of past experiences with patients showing up in our offices wanting forms filled out while they wait - we now have a policy of 7-10 days to complete a form. Patients still show up wanting a form filled out because it is an 'emergency' for them - often stating that their benefits will be cut off, or their utilities will be suspended - but sticking to our policy has worked. Giving our office staff the ability to state to these patients that we have a policy of 7-10 days to complete any forms has decreased a lot of stress in the office - including for the two NPs ( I am one of them) as we are no longer 'on call' to complete forms. Yes, it is just not fair for patients to show up with forms and expect the provider to fill them out on the spot, especially when they could have brought them to the appointment. Another situation that occurs are patients who have not been seen in a year or so, or who have missed their last appointment, sending forms in to be filled. We do have a strict policy that they need to be seen and evaluated before any form is filled out if they have not been seen in a year, or have missed one or more appointments. This is not just for our convenience, but it is a liability issue. I agree with your statement about emergencies - and we have reinforced with our staff that because a patient is upset about something - does not make it a medical emergency. Our hospital policy is to not charge for the completion of any forms or copying for outside agencies, including law firms. However - I worked in a private practice that charged $20.00 for the completion of any form. This brought in revenue for the providers time, which is very reasonable in my opinion. Thanks, Ann M. Kriebel-Gasparro, MSN, APRN Department of Neurology Suite 320 Cooper University Hospital Three Cooper Plaza Camden, N.J. 08103 Ph. 856-968-7046 Fax. 856-964-0504 kriebel-ann@cooperhealth.edu ________________________________ From: pacnp_member-bounces@pacnp.org [mailto:pacnp_member-bounces@pacnp.org] On Behalf Of Rahat Sayed Sent: Wednesday, September 24, 2008 10:16 AM To: lmwcrnp@netzero.net; pacnp_member@pacnp.org Subject: Re: Fw: Re: [Pacnp_member] Physical forms hello all, Its true that filling out these physical forms is never an emergency. Just want to pass it along that the FMLA forms can be confusing for the caregiver. Since I deal with 23 hour admissions with certain cases following a procedure, FMLA forms discuss it as a medical emergency. Please read the form carefully because it can become a liability issue. The form may be filled out by an NP but as stated on the form as a medical urgency-- I feel that it lies in our hands along with the physician as to how we handled the situation as an emergency when there is none just a 23 hour observation following a minimally invasive procedure. Often patients do not include the first page that discusses it as an emergent medical form/ disability. The form is given by the union in favor of the patient who demand an extended leave of absence when not needed. -------------- Original message -------------- From: "lmwcrnp@netzero.net" Heather - I think you and your practice would benefit from a policy that indicates there is a 5 day (or whatever) turn-around time for forms. This way the form can be placed on the chart and the chart placed on the desk of the person who completed the physical so she/he can complete the form. The patient can be told - "we will have the Nurse Practitioner who did your physical - Mr. or Ms. NP - fill out the form within 5 days. We will call you when it is ready and you can pick it up. There is a $ 10 charge (or whatever) to complete the form". Who says the patient should be able to show up at the window with a form and you have to drop everything and fill in information that you did not do? As the old adage says "An inability to plan on your part does not constitute an emergency on my part". Many practices charge to complete a form since the provider is spending non-reimbursable time filling out forms. Of course, it will take a discussion with your practice and a policy established - you can't be the only one in our practice refusing to fill in a form there and now for a physical you didn''t do. Hope this helps. Linda Woodin, CRNP Harrisburg Gastroenterology, Ltd. 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